Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

[nomadd]

I'm in the same boat. Been upgrading and building PCs for 20+ years. Hell even remember paying £200+ for a 120MB (yes you read that correctly) HDD for my Amiga 1200..

I paid that for my first HDD. It was 10MB.

Still, to be free of floppies to boot the OS: Priceless.

 

[chrcoluk]

The reason so many reviewers omitted the 1080ti is because AMD asked them to.

Sadly these reviewers dont think for themselves, and just accept what the vendor tells them to do, I know not every reviewer did this but the majority did. I think they simply dont want to lose their supply of free pre release goods.

 

[chrcoluk]

No one has to upgrade sure, this is all trivial entertainment nonsense.

But waiting has risks too if you hold onto plans of buying. GDDR5 memory is down in supply and up in price: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-graphics-cards-see-price-increases-starting-month-due-memory-shortage/

Sadly the norm now in the PC tech industry

Since the HDD floods some years back all the companies realised shortages boosted profits, and so now just create artificial supply issues for memory chips, nand storage, cpus, gpus and more.

This seems to have spread to the console sector as well where we now seeing limited supply pre orders. They have worked out a human is more likely to buy something and more importantly pay more for something if they consider it scarce.

Scouring the OCUK store front, its alarming how many products are set to "preorder" or "out of stock".

 

[nashathedog]

I have a corsair hx850, so far I've raised the memory to 950, power to 50%, core clock 2.5% and lower the voltage to 1050.
I've up the fan speed to 2800rpm and temps are holding 70ish

Noisy?

I almost bought the reference air-cooled 64 a couple of days ago but decided to grab a 1080 and wait too see how cards like the 64 Strix perform and what they cost.
I was really disappointed in the AIO's reliability and cost.

 

[r22snapper]

Noisy?

I almost bought the reference air-cooled 64 a couple of days ago but decided to grab a 1080 and wait too see how cards like the 64 Strix perform and what they cost.
I was really disappointed in the AIO's reliability and cost.

Yep. To justify a 1080ti price it needs to compete with a 1080ti.

 

[Steve.m]

Hello,

I have been trying to find results for the Vega 64/56 on "Blender cycles" benchmark https://code.blender.org/2016/02/new-cycles-benchmark/
Is anyone here using Blender cycles with Vega? If yes, would it possible for benchmark results.

I have seen 2 results on other benchmarks, and they show Vega with good results, but would prefer seeing results from a member here.

Regards,

 

[old gamer]

Noisy?

I almost bought the reference air-cooled 64 a couple of days ago but decided to grab a 1080 and wait too see how cards like the 64 Strix perform and what they cost.
I was really disappointed in the AIO's reliability and cost.

Silent when browsing and stuff but does ramp up gaming, it not to bad as my speakers can drown it out.
My plan was to get a kraken bracket and fit a aio but it appears they don't bloody fit so have to wait until one does

 

[nashathedog]

Why do people keep acting like the Vega 64 LC is a different card to the Vega 64 air-cooled?
It's just an overclock and a different cooler isn't it? We don't class every 3rd party card with a different cooler and a factory overclock as a different card do we?
Vega 56 and Vega 64 are different, but how is the liquid cooled Vega 64 any different than the air cooled Vega 64?

It isn't but people like to pretend it is because it costs the same as a reference GTX1080ti so that lets them compare the two and claim the V64 is rubbish because it can't beat an equally priced Geforce. Of course that conveniently ignores the fact an AIO GTX1080 costs the same and can't beat the GTX1080ti either, or that a GTX1070 AIO costs as much as a V64/GTX1080 and can't beat them, etc.

There's unanswered questions regarding why the V64 AIO's are using a different older revision of the chip than the air cooled cards use, Several of us on this forum have had to return AIO's that were faulty and the question I keep coming back to is when we heard the rumour about AMD needing to delay Vega to do another stepping a few months back was it from revision C0 which is used in the AIO to revision C1 which is used in the Air-cooled model, If so why was it needed and was it due to the chip not being suitable for an air cooled reference cooler? It seems like they found out the older revision needed replacing because it was too hot and power hungry for the air cooled design but they thought they'd get away with it in the AIO so they only replaced the chips for the air-cooled models. I'm not saying any of that is right but it is a possibility due to the facts already mentioned.

 

[nashathedog]

Silent when browsing and stuff but does ramp up gaming, it not to bad as my speakers can drown it out.
My plan was to get a kraken bracket and fit a aio but it appears they don't bloody fit so have to wait until one does

Good to know as adding an AIO myself was an option I thought about too, I don't want to buy another AIO for several reasons but I would like to get a decent AIB at some point and even if I don't get it until around christmas time or in the new year I don't think AMD will be ready to replace it with Navi anytime soon so it'll remain at the top of the driver priority list for a good long while.

 

[old gamer]

Good to know as adding an AIO myself was an option I thought about too, I don't want to buy another AIO for several reasons but I would like to get a decent AIB at some point and even if I don't get it until around christmas time or in the new year I don't think AMD will be ready to replace it with Navi anytime soon so it'll remain at the top of the driver priority list for a good long while.

I like the look of these and maybe put it on a 360 rad but I don't think they will be cheap

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...-release-cooling-solutions-for-rx-vega-cards/

 

[melmac]

Well I explained it all but you have chosen not to see it for some odd reason. Anyways, your choice and I am not fussed.

Because you didn't explain anything. Vega is a direct competitor to the 1080, people were hoping for a 1080ti competitor but it didn't happen, forget and move on. Going on a mindless rant about how reviews are biased and this forum is biased as some reviews didn't compare the 1080ti to Vega 64 makes no sense. And the basis for the argument is that the most expensive water cooled editions are the same price as the 1080ti's.

No, there is no good sense in any of his post. IT's trying to create friction where none exists.

And you are fussed obviously, or you wouldn't have responded.

 

[lordhawkwind]

Yep. To justify a 1080ti price it needs to compete with a 1080ti.

I bought my Vega 64 AC on release day for £450. On Scan you can still buy a Vega 64 AC for £469. That's more than 50% cheaper than a 1080ti which at best in DX11 is 35% faster and in DX12 much less. Nearly all 1080ti's are AC not WC and TBH Vega 64 WC is way over priced for what it delivers.

 

[heartburnron]

Yep. To justify a 1080ti price it needs to compete with a 1080ti.

What about this card then? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...s-graphics-card-gv-n1080xtreme-gx-185-gi.html Does it have to compete with the 1080Ti to justify it's price?

 

[r22snapper]

What about this card then? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...s-graphics-card-gv-n1080xtreme-gx-185-gi.html Does it have to compete with the 1080Ti to justify it's price?

Yep. I wouldn't buy that either.

 

[heartburnron]

Yep. I wouldn't buy that either.

Ha. Touche!

 

[lordhawkwind]

Because you didn't explain anything. Vega is a direct competitor to the 1080, people were hoping for a 1080ti competitor but it didn't happen, forget and move on. Going on a mindless rant about how reviews are biased and this forum is biased as some reviews didn't compare the 1080ti to Vega 64 makes no sense. And the basis for the argument is that the most expensive water cooled editions are the same price as the 1080ti's.

Following that logic, the 580 was the best AMD until a few months ago. Should we have been comparing that to a 1080ti as well? No, we wouldn't because it's ridiculous.

No, there is no good sense in any of his post. IT's trying to create friction where none exists.

And you are fussed obviously, or you wouldn't have responded.

Sorry but until Vega came out Fury X/Pro were the top AMD cards. Polaris have and always will be mid-range cards thank you.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

I bought my Vega 64 AC on release day for £450. On **** you can still buy a Vega 64 AC for £469. That's more than 50% cheaper than a 1080ti which at best in DX11 is 35% faster and in DX12 much less. Nearly all 1080ti's are AC not WC and TBH Vega 64 WC is way over priced for what it delivers.

Id remove the competitor, not allowed.

 

[WeSbO]

The reason so many reviewers omitted the 1080ti is because AMD asked them to.

Sadly these reviewers dont think for themselves, and just accept what the vendor tells them to do, I know not every reviewer did this but the majority did. I think they simply dont want to lose their supply of free pre release goods.

I don't think it really has to do with getting free goods as much as it is to do with being able to put out videos on launch day (yeah of course not having to pay is a major plus), meaning most of them would probably buy the components if they had to (and if it was possible of course) to be able to release a review on launch day, and I don't even really think it's for the extra trafic as much as it is for the credibility factor.
Ultimately if brand didn't send out any review components (which probably wouldn't be a smart move) at all to anyone and let them all buy the GPUs at release, the big reviewers would, like PCper and the frontier edition (they probably spent close to 3 grand on the cards they got lol crazy)

 

[chaosophy]

I like the look of these and maybe put it on a 360 rad but I don't think they will be cheap

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...-release-cooling-solutions-for-rx-vega-cards/

I've seen them listed at £145.53 for the all in one unit with the 120 rad/fan but not in stock, mentions that they are already past due.

Think I'll probably get one and fit it.

After the talk of the possible C0 to C1 chip revisions on the air cooled cards and given that WC Vega's never seem to be in stock and are listed at £700 to £800, I ended up buying an air cooled Vega at £480 with the thought that I can stick one of those on for £150 and end up with a potentially better WC'd card at less money, £630.

 

[Hotwired]

Can't recall exactly where but someone was ranting about not being able to put an AIO bios onto an air cooled 64 and therefore being the denied higher limits which the AIO BIOS allows(?)

I'll rummage.