Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

Martini1991 · 4 Sep 2017 at 20:43

silversurfer said:
October ? Im not sure the prices will be good but why would it take longer unless they are doing anything complex

I'm waiting for the price of the aibs to be 350 before I buy
Tbh. I don't remember seeing a launch before this poor in terms of vendors with reference cards? There's two.

bells · 4 Sep 2017 at 20:45

Martini1991 said:
I'm waiting for the price of the aibs to be 350 before I buy
Tbh. I don't remember seeing a launch before this poor in terms of vendors with reference cards? There's two.

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GoogalyMoogaly · 4 Sep 2017 at 20:59

Martini1991 said:
I'm waiting for the price of the aibs to be 350 before I buy
Tbh. I don't remember seeing a launch before this poor in terms of vendors with reference cards? There's two.

I'm waiting for the AIB 64's to come out, see what price they are and how they perform? (i.e. how close are they to the LC versions)

@shankly1985 did you decide which CPU you're getting? I'm still torn between a 1700/1700X and a 1920X.

r22snapper · 4 Sep 2017 at 21:04

shankly1985 said:
Easy the best DirectX 12 title to date, Recording doesn't do the game justice. Seems the Recording messes with some animations used AMD Relive @TonyTurbo78 Is this what you ment by Recording not looking smooth for this Game?

Highly recommend trying it out

Crikey, just tried that. 3440UW, all settings maxed, 4xMSAA and it doesn't move from a locked 74fps. impressive.

Martini1991 · 4 Sep 2017 at 21:05

bells said:
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For the 56?

bells · 4 Sep 2017 at 21:08

Martini1991 said:
For the 56?

Yeah your right

but not a lot really which is odd ?

shankly1985 · 4 Sep 2017 at 21:30

GoogalyMoogaly said:
I'm waiting for the AIB 64's to come out, see what price they are and how they perform? (i.e. how close are they to the LC versions)

@shankly1985 did you decide which CPU you're getting? I'm still torn between a 1700/1700X and a 1920X.

Probably 1800x AMD on twitter told me not to get Threadripper if my prime use is Gaming.
Wouldn't mind seeing what intel coffee leak is like also.

shankly1985 · 4 Sep 2017 at 21:31

r22snapper said:
Crikey, just tried that. 3440UW, all settings maxed, 4xMSAA and it doesn't move from a locked 74fps. impressive.

Looks amazing in person doesn't it haa

GoogalyMoogaly · 4 Sep 2017 at 21:55

shankly1985 said:
Probably 1800x AMD on twitter told me not to get Threadripper if my prime use is Gaming.
Wouldn't mind seeing what intel coffee leak is like also.

Really? What's wrong with Threadripper for gaming?
I'm also interested in CoffeeLake.

You planning on flashing the BIOS when you watercool the Vega? (The LC BIOS allows higher clocks due to higher voltage right?)

shankly1985 · 4 Sep 2017 at 22:10

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Really? What's wrong with Threadripper for gaming?
I'm also interested in CoffeeLake.

You planning on flashing the BIOS when you watercool the Vega? (The LC BIOS allows higher clocks due to higher voltage right?)

Not really sure why. https://twitter.com/AMDRyzen/status/903763871848165376

Probably not I happy with around getting 1700/1000

Martini1991 · 4 Sep 2017 at 22:17

It's because threadripper will have like half of its cores idle during gaming, it's pretty pointless lol.

GoogalyMoogaly · 4 Sep 2017 at 22:31

Well yeah, but why does that make it worse?

Martini1991 · 4 Sep 2017 at 22:37

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Well yeah, but why does that make it worse?

No one said it was, but I'd rather buy a 1700 and have an extra 700 quid

shankly1985 · 4 Sep 2017 at 22:50

Martini1991 said:
It's because threadripper will have like half of its cores idle during gaming, it's pretty pointless lol.

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Well yeah, but why does that make it worse?

Maybe price is the factor AMD saying I should go with Ryzen 7.. Threadripper is more focused on more than gaming and cost a lot more.
Where the gaming performance is the same? Not even checked benchmarks for the two platforms.

GoogalyMoogaly · 4 Sep 2017 at 23:25

shankly1985 said:
Maybe price is the factor AMD saying I should go with Ryzen 7.. Threadripper is more focused on more than gaming and cost a lot more.
Where the gaming performance is the same? Not even checked benchmarks for the two platforms.

I've heard Ryzen and presumably Threadripper can be quite dependant on memory, is it purely speed or is it bandwidth? Cuz surely quad channel would help if it's bandwidth related?

How many PCI-e lanes does Ryzen support? I realise Vega doesn't current support crossfire, but it is planned right? Does Ryzen have enough lanes?

Also, from my point of view, while gaming will be what it's mostly used for, I do also do some video encoding and mean to do more streaming.
Besides, it's like getting Vega 56, it's good an all, but where's the e-peen?

I was hoping to do the CPU upgrade and Vega purchase at the same time, but it seems like AIB Vega 64 is a way off. Mind you, so does CoffeeLake.

Nemesis.ie · 5 Sep 2017 at 07:53

Martini1991 said:
No one said it was, but I'd rather buy a 1700 and have an extra 700 quid

Agreed, if you don't have all the extra I/O populated, or need the quad channel bandwidth, for the price saving you can have more RAM/2nd graphics card (even if the two will end up at x8) which on XF supporting games will yield better performance than a TR for the same money.

@GoogalyMoogaly Ryzen has 16 lanes for graphics and 4 separate ones for M.2 NVME.

Streaming will be just fine with Ryzen, TR comes into its own with 3+ graphics cards or if you want more than 1 full speed M.2 and if you need more than 8c16t for your workload and you buy something bigger than the 1900.

ubersonic · 5 Sep 2017 at 09:51

GoogalyMoogaly said:
How many PCI-e lanes does Ryzen support? I realise Vega doesn't current support crossfire, but it is planned right? Does Ryzen have enough lanes?

One "problem" with Ryzen is that the third PCI-E x16 slot (wired at x4) is only PCI-E 2.0, which means if you want to use a PCI-E NVME drive in it it will bottleneck, the solution is to put the drive in the second PCI-Ex16 slot which of course limits the GPU in the first PCI-E x16 slot to x8 mode (not really an issue with any existing GPU) and blocks crossfire/SLI.

Of course this would only be an issue if you wanted to use two cards plus a PCI-E SSD.

Nemesis.ie · 5 Sep 2017 at 10:10

That x4 2.0 slot also goes through the chipset, so suffers on both latency and bandwidth.

These areas are where TR shines - if you need it.

LtMatt · 5 Sep 2017 at 10:19

ubersonic said:
One "problem" with Ryzen is that the third PCI-E x16 slot (wired at x4) is only PCI-E 2.0, which means if you want to use a PCI-E NVME drive in it it will bottleneck, the solution is to put the drive in the second PCI-Ex16 slot which of course limits the GPU in the first PCI-E x16 slot to x8 mode (not really an issue with any existing GPU) and blocks crossfire/SLI.

Of course this would only be an issue if you wanted to use two cards plus a PCI-E SSD.

I don't think this is true Ubersonic, my NVME drive is running at Gen 3 PCI-E 4.0 on my 1800x Crosshair VI system, and according to benchmarks it is hitting its maximum speeds.

ubersonic · 5 Sep 2017 at 10:22

AMDMatt said:
I don't think this is true Ubersonic, my NVME drive is running at Gen 3 PCI-E 4.0 on my 1800x Crosshair VI system, and according to benchmarks it is hitting its maximum speeds.

That's because it's an M.2 NVME drive presumably in an M.2 slot, not a PCI-E NVME drive in the third PCI-E slot

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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

It is not that bad.

Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

Better red than dead.