Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

[heartburnron]

Me either tbh. But hey, if it makes people happy then fair play.

Ok well let's take a look at the things wrote along the big stick people are beating Vega with and why they are of no consequence to me:

- similar performance to a card that has been out for 16 months already - yes that is true but is that going to affect my experience once I'm gaming on my new Vega card? Nope.
- high power draw - also true but I have a PSU capable of handling that and the additional electric expense is insignificant to me (actually received a bill from British Gas today informing me I was £40 in credit on my account which I imagine will cover it )
- high power draw means a hot card - well not if you go for the liquid cooled version as I have which runs at 60 degrees.
- expensive - well yeah you may able to get more performance from a similarly priced 1080ti but I've already invested £700 on a curved ultrawide freesync monitor so I'm happy to be at least in the conversation comparatively with the best card available to me to pair with my monitor.

So if you take all those things away I'm left with a gaming experience that is up there with the best around - that is why I bought one. Surely that it isn't so hard to understand...

 

[HAz]

I dont feel like Nvidia will do anything with prices. They dont have too. Vega isnt really putting any pressure on their line up. It matches it for performance, it's good for FreeSync owners but it isn't stealing from Nvidia's market share.

In fact I feel like Vega is only going to make Nvidia win some new customers with it's power efficiency and heat etc...

Vega 56 tho could be the savour of the party if it drops in price.

But will miners keep prices elevated? This again plays in to Nvidia hands as I get the impression miners prefer AMD cards.

Nvidia be out celebrating tonight thats for sure.

 

[silversurfer]

Do you think it's worth swapping Fury X Crossfire for a Vega 64?

I think its worth it if your next step would be Navi because thats too long to wait. If the alternate step up is Volta then maybe its best to see details for that. Anyone not in a rush can just mull it over if it really suits them or not.
I think we're finding out way too many people have been waiting for ages for AMD to do something new, partly why their market share dropped.
Half a mil spent on Vega cards is quite impressive for 30 ish minutes of buying. Imagine if they had the stock to last the whole day, AMD hopefully already knew they are playing catch up


I was just looking for anything interesting appearing. I saw this part of a demo where Vega seems unphased by a fire, smoke and distortion effect and it seems the other cards take a bit of a hit



a lot of games have a poor deal where the explosive exciting bits are the most likely to slow down more then they should. Would be good to see more of Vega breaking that trend or maybe its a one off

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yeah. Lets see if that happens on these

I dont feel like Nvidia will do anything with prices. They dont have too. Vega isnt really putting any pressure on their line up. It matches it for performance, it's good for FreeSync owners but it isn't stealing from Nvidia's market share.

In fact I feel like Vega is only going to make Nvidia win some new customers with it's power efficiency and heat etc...

Vega 56 tho could be the savour of the party if it drops in price.

But will miners keep prices elevated? This again plays in to Nvidia hands as I get the impression miners prefer AMD cards.

I dunno,looking at the Vega56 its not as bad as some are making out to be - its either slightly below or above an RX580 in power consumption,and TBH that means you really don't need a huge PSU.

But the problem for the GTX1070 it is also good at mining too - the reason the GTX1080 has not jumped in price is since GDDR5X actually causes more issues with mining.

So even the GTX1080 is potentially a GTX1070 competitor too.

 

[Chrisc]

Only me happy about my purchase then?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Only me happy about my purchase then?

Its the internet dude,either people are deliriously happy or deliriously unhappy,with no middle ground,so expect all the anger to probably subside after a few weeks,when it moves to the next big release,which is Coffeelake.

 

[Panos]

I dont feel like Nvidia will do anything with prices. They dont have too. Vega isnt really putting any pressure on their line up. It matches it for performance, it's good for FreeSync owners but it isn't stealing from Nvidia's market share.

In fact I feel like Vega is only going to make Nvidia win some new customers with it's power efficiency and heat etc...

Vega 56 tho could be the savour of the party if it drops in price.

But will miners keep prices elevated? This again plays in to Nvidia hands as I get the impression miners prefer AMD cards.

Unfortunately, NV with Volta going to hike the prices even higher than they were up to now. Won't be surprised if we see an extra £150 pricetag on the Volta x80 and x80ti for not much performance difference at the end.
(see the GTX980Ti against the 1080).
And I would laugh at all those who are insulting those who bought Vega today, but comes May 2018 they will be crying ripping apart their clothes of the £750-£800 Volta x80.

 

[opethdisciple]

Unfortunately, NV with Volta going to hike the prices even higher than they were up to now. Won't be surprised if we see an extra £150 pricetag on the Volta x80 and x80ti for not much performance difference at the end.
(see the GTX980Ti against the 1080).
And I would laugh at all those who are insulting those who bought Vega today, but comes May 2018 they will be crying ripping apart their clothes of the £750-£800 Volta x80.

But then we need AMD to have a competitive line up to bring those prices down.

 

[old gamer]

I think we will see some improvement over the next 2 or 3 months as drivers get better, it's the amd way and after the 7970 and 290 I'm used to it

 

[EsaT]

Default settings power consumption/heat output is sure quite total WTF facepalm for performance.
It's obviously overvolted all the way to hell over optimal point of manufacturing process.

But Powersave profile drops power consumption really good amount without much of performance penalty making situation look quite different.
http://techreport.com/review/32391/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-and-rx-vega-56-graphics-cards-reviewed/11
That 214W average isn't such bad at all:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_64/29.html
Idle/video playback power numbers have bigger power efficiency difference to Pascal.

 

[Jono8]

1080 performance for the same price but noisier, hotter and higher power consumption. ...and all this 15 months later.

Cracking job AMD

Taking the **** even more than nvidia with these prices.

Why is it acceptable to some on here for them to charge this much for such a poor and out of date card

 

[Panos]

I am tempted to get one of the watercooled Vega 64s at some point though (when there's more stock and hopefully better prices). Do you think it's worth swapping Fury X Crossfire for a Vega 64? I know it seems like a silly question, but it would use less power than 2 Fury X cards (just) and has twice the VRAM. But is it worth the price?

Tough one. I am coming from a FuryX @ 1190/600 (standard AIO), which means Vega 64 air barely has any meaningful perf over it. But there are few badly developed games where the card runs out of VRAM (Tomb Raider & XCOM2 are a good examples) and the performance tanks.
And I bought a liquid Vega 64, because I want to fiddle with it, overclock it, etc. If not happy with it's overall behaviour then, I will just sell it and roll back to the trusty FuryX. As I did last year with the GTX1080 which clocked at 2190, beating every single GPU metric in the mean time I wasn't happy with it's 2560x1440 DX12 performance without Freesync, over the FuryX with Freesync. Yes 30%-35% more FPS but Freesync is doing it's job.

Personally I see it from the enthusiast side. Those things are more than gaming cards.
As are the CPUs. Hence I am still between 7900K and 1950X, and the latter is more appealing because I can fiddle with it more with high speed low latency ram and is much faster in productivity.
But the former has the most beautiful motherboard possibly ever, the EVGA X299 Dark. And I want it

 

[Chrisc]

Its the internet dude,either people are deliriously happy or deliriously unhappy,with no middle ground,so expect all the anger to probably subside after a few weeks,when it moves to the next big release,which is Coffeelake.

Yeah I guess so, I know the timing isn't great but I've only been in the market for a new card over the last couple of months. So it was either a 1070/80 or vega. I'm biased slightly to AMD so I'm glad I waited. And at £450 I'm happy. I'm also only a casual gamer so I hardly doubt I'll notice the addition cost of usage over my 480

 

[Chrisc]

Default settings power consumption/heat output is sure quite total WTF facepalm for performance.
It's obviously overvolted all the way to hell over optimal point of manufacturing process.

But Powersave profile drops power consumption really good amount without much of performance penalty making situation look quite different.
http://techreport.com/review/32391/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-and-rx-vega-56-graphics-cards-reviewed/11
That 214W average isn't such bad at all:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_64/29.html
Idle/video playback power numbers have bigger power efficiency difference to Pascal.

Now that's interesting. Cheers for that

 

[opethdisciple]

Tough one. I am coming from a FuryX @ 1190/600 (standard AIO), which means Vega 64 air barely has any meaningful perf over it. But there are few badly developed games where the card runs out of VRAM (Tomb Raider & XCOM2 are a good examples) and the performance tanks.
And I bought a liquid Vega 64, because I want to fiddle with it, overclock it, etc. If not happy with it's overall behaviour then, I will just sell it and roll back to the trusty FuryX. As I did last year with the GTX1080 which clocked at 2190, beating every single GPU metric in the mean time I wasn't happy with it's 2560x1440 DX12 performance without Freesync, over the FuryX with Freesync. Yes 30%-35% more FPS but Freesync is doing it's job.

Personally I see it from the enthusiast side. Those things are more than gaming cards.
As are the CPUs. Hence I am still between 7900K and 1950X, and the latter is more appealing because I can fiddle with it more with high speed low latency ram and is much faster in productivity.
But the former has the most beautiful motherboard possibly ever, the EVGA X299 Dark. And I want it

Decisions decisions of the best kind. I'm in love with Ryzen at the moment. I don't know if the TR4 socket is the same as AM4 in that it will be compatible with more than one generation of CPU?

If that is the case, then the TR is a no brainer as Intel cant offer that sort of upgrade path. Unless they have drastically changed their ways?

 

[~>Dg<~]

Nvidia can just crash the price of the 1070 though, as its been out that long.



It sure is, so that'll be them off AMDs Christmas card list

they actually already done this but not all people are selling at a lower price.so retailers are selling decent branded 1070s at £310 ive seen ready for vega launch.when i read the actual gaming reviews earlier couldnt stop laughing. 1070 gtx beats the 450 quid one in literaly 90 percent of games benchmarked at 1080 res which is what these cards are for. they arent for 1440. not with new games with decent settings.so basically for the actual resolution they made for they are bad.over priced and the little price drop just before preorder my god...that was just genius take my hat off to you cause they made people think oooh best get one now for great value no benchies had hit but that money had gone from the wallet.brilliant business move.almost clapped my hands.

 

[RavenXXX2]

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yeah I guess so, I know the timing isn't great but I've only been in the market for a new card over the last couple of months. So it was either a 1070/80 or vega. I'm biased slightly to AMD so I'm glad I waited. And at £450 I'm happy. I'm also only a casual gamer so I hardly doubt I'll notice the addition cost of usage over my 480

Think Xbox vs PS,and you get the gist!!

 

[Besty]

having read the reviews it looks like AMD did deliver with the 64 edition but really you need to use the power efficient setting.

The an overclocked 56 looks like the better card out of the two.

 

[RavenXXX2]

they actually already done this but not all people are selling at a lower price.so retailers are selling decent branded 1070s at £310 ive seen ready for vega launch.when i read the actual gaming reviews earlier couldnt stop laughing. 1070 gtx beats the 450 quid one in literaly 90 percent of games benchmarked at 1080 res which is what these cards are for. they arent for 1440. not with new games with decent settings.so basically for the actual resolution they made for they are bad.over priced and the little price drop just before preorder my god...that was just genius take my hat off to you cause they made people think oooh best get one now for great value no benchies had hit but that money had gone from the wallet.brilliant business move.almost clapped my hands.

Typing BS. Here 56 wins 8 out of 10 games at 1080p.



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-amd-radeon-rx-vega-56-review