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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

  • What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

  • It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

  • It is not that bad.

  • Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

  • I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

  • Better red than dead.

Results are only viewable after voting.
opethdisciple said:
Decisions decisions of the best kind. I'm in love with Ryzen at the moment. I don't know if the TR4 socket is the same as AM4 in that it will be compatible with more than one generation of CPU?

If that is the case, then the TR is a no brainer as Intel cant offer that sort of upgrade path. Unless they have drastically changed their ways?
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They wont. They still going to release the 8700K at around £350 if not £450 next year, with TIM and very high temps and power consumption. (that part of the architecture hasn't changed over Kabylake).

Good CPU, most games still optimised for ring topology and it will trash the 7700K and the KabylakeX, but the alternatives going to be 8 core Ryzen+ (14nm) at higher speeds (4.4-4.5) and possibly at similar prices and exactly the same power consumption of today. (the Zeppelin+ just raises speeds on same power envelop).

We shall see. Personally trying to beat into submission my 6800K this week to make it work at 4.4. I have been lazy with it, having just make it run at 4Ghz without touching voltage, uncore etc, while waiting many parameters for the next month upgrade. Might buy a 1920 to have it for rendering and development and keep my current setup for gaming, or grab a second hand 6950X if price is right. Or upgrade. It all depends the itch of the moment :o
 
~>Dg<~ said:
they actually already done this but not all people are selling at a lower price.so retailers are selling decent branded 1070s at £310 ive seen ready for vega launch.when i read the actual gaming reviews earlier couldnt stop laughing. 1070 gtx beats the 450 quid one in literaly 90 percent of games benchmarked at 1080 res which is what these cards are for. they arent for 1440. not with new games with decent settings.so basically for the actual resolution they made for they are bad.over priced and the little price drop just before preorder my god...that was just genius :p take my hat off to you cause they made people think oooh best get one now for great value no benchies had hit but that money had gone from the wallet.brilliant business move.almost clapped my hands.
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Do capital letters and spacing exist up there on your high horse? You posts are so clustered together it makes reading them irritating as ****.
 
I remember when I bought the 2900XT, lovely card for winter that was. It's almost like AMD are hoping for a cold winter again.
 
heartburnron said:
Ok well let's take a look at the things wrote along the big stick people are beating Vega with and why they are of no consequence to me:

- similar performance to a card that has been out for 16 months already - yes that is true but is that going to affect my experience once I'm gaming on my new Vega card? Nope.
- high power draw - also true but I have a PSU capable of handling that and the additional electric expense is insignificant to me (actually received a bill from British Gas today informing me I was £40 in credit on my account which I imagine will cover it :p)
- high power draw means a hot card - well not if you go for the liquid cooled version as I have which runs at 60 degrees.
- expensive - well yeah you may able to get more performance from a similarly priced 1080ti but I've already invested £700 on a curved ultrawide freesync monitor so I'm happy to be at least in the conversation comparatively with the best card available to me to pair with my monitor.

So if you take all those things away I'm left with a gaming experience that is up there with the best around - that is why I bought one. Surely that it isn't so hard to understand...
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It seems you basic reasoning is that you're tied into Freesync and you don't care about the other points.
You could use that reasoning on any card ever made.

Nvidia release a new card that half the speed of a Fury Nano, draw 600W, runs hot and loud. But it supports GSync and I don't care about the rest. So I'm left with a gaming experience up there with all the experience around the same performance. Must be a near perfect card...
 
nashathedog said:
You're not alone mate. :D
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Surprised you got one. You seemed unsatisfied with Vega up until today. Reviews came out, worse then expected, now you happy? :p:D

I know, I am being a bit harsh. I would probably be happy right now if I had one on order also, enjoy your card mate ;)
 
Chrisc said:
Yay :D

I'm picturing the inbetweeners 'friends' meme

Vega friends :p
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Oh man, This feels like when all my mates got Sinclair Spectrum's for Christmas and Mumsy got me a Vic 20. :p

I ended up with a new chubby friend who also had a Vic 20 (we weren't part of the in crowd), That said he also had a Sigma IV CB aeriel with a load of high band low band rig stuff, we had a lot of fun with, Ahh good times :D
 
nashathedog said:
Oh man, This feels like when all my mates got Sinclair Spectrum's for Christmas and Mumsy got me a Vic 20. :p

I ended up with a new chubby friend who also had a Vic 20 (we weren't part of the in crowd), That said he also had a Sigma IV CB aeriel with a load of high band low band rig stuff, we had a lot of fun with, Ahh good times :D
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Was you also the Betamax kid?
 
EsaT said:
Default settings power consumption/heat output is sure quite total WTF facepalm for performance.
It's obviously overvolted all the way to hell over optimal point of manufacturing process.

But Powersave profile drops power consumption really good amount without much of performance penalty making situation look quite different.
http://techreport.com/review/32391/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-and-rx-vega-56-graphics-cards-reviewed/11
That 214W average isn't such bad at all:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_64/29.html
Idle/video playback power numbers have bigger power efficiency difference to Pascal.
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This is something I feel a lot of reviews have missed and a lot of people are ignoring while bashing Vega. To be fair I was ready to bash Vega because of the power usage and noise levels being reported in most reviews. So I was going to give Vega 64 a miss until I read the Techpowerup review, which detailed the 6 different TDP settings. I game at 4K and Vega 64 gives ~1080 performance at 200W - 214W using the PowerSaver options on either BIOS. It also lowers noise levels considerably.

Definately makes it a far more appealing GPU for me coming from a Fury X.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
It seems you basic reasoning is that you're tied into Freesync and you don't care about the other points.
You could use that reasoning on any card ever made.

Nvidia release a new card that half the speed of a Fury Nano, draw 600W, runs hot and loud. But it supports GSync and I don't care about the rest. So I'm left with a gaming experience up there with all the experience around the same performance. Must be a near perfect card...
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Not quite what I'm saying. I'm getting a similar gaming experience compared to Nvidia's top offerings all be it that it requires more power. The fact that it requires more power doesn't matter to me. Yes I'm tied in to Freesync or of course I would consider the 1080 or Ti. My post was in response to people saying they can't understand why anyone would buy one. I have explained why I have. Not saying it's a perfect card. I don't see how your reference to a loud and hot card half the speed of another makes any sense either...
 
nashathedog said:
Don't forget the poor lowly ZX81 kid's with there last gen black and white visuals. God I miss the 80's
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I don't. 15-20 mins to load a level from a tape drive and games like Manic Minor. I remember putting a game on to load and then going off to have my dinner, hoping when I returned it hadn't crashed or had fully loaded.

The 80s is why I spent so much on gaming PCs/setup today as I would have never dreamed gaming could look as good as it does.
 
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