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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

  • What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

  • It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

  • It is not that bad.

  • Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

  • I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

  • Better red than dead.

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Nemesis.ie said:
@WeSbO, no, no mention of CF on my Sapphire box.
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Thanks.

Nemesis.ie said:
Edit: Oooh my edit button has appeared!

In that review, they apparently removed the cooler before testing and just slapped it back on without new TIM - what a daft thing to do.
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Nah he came out and said that he did the testing before he removed the cooler, and just had some FCAT testing left to do after he put the heatsink back on :
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/r...-vega-64-strix-8gb.416698/page-2#post-5469841
 
WeSbO said:
or that AMD have designed the best blower design ever and it can't be improved upon very much (lol)
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You say that as a joke, but having used hundreds of cards from dozens of vendors over the decades I have to say this is the best two slot blower I have seen. When I was benchmarking the V64 I had it in the same machine as a GTX1080 to save time (yes you can do that if you're not using PhysX benchmarks) and something that surprised be was just how much better the V64 blower was compared to the Nvidia one. At the same fan percentage it was pushing noticeably more air out of the card while producing a less annoying noise.
 
ubersonic said:
You say that as a joke, but having used hundreds of cards from dozens of vendors over the decades I have to say this is the best two slot blower I have seen.
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True it is doing a pretty good job at dissipating considering, but I still expect a 3rd party heatsink to do better. Wasn't it asus that already had problems with the direct heatpipe only making contact with half of the die or something like that ?
 
There's no mention of CF on my Powercolor box. Not really any news though, it's already known that Crossfire and SLI are on their way out.
 
Shiari said:
There's no mention of CF on my Powercolor box. Not really any news though, it's already known that Crossfire and SLI are on their way out.
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It's somewhat of a good thing that they are moving away from crossfire, I mean I prefer that they concentrate on single card optimization than using resources on crossfire for a minority of users. They could be hoping that explicit multi-gpu becomes a thing on dx12 still making it useful for people who want to buy multiple GPUs without having to put in the work, i'm sure that both AMD and Nvidia would be very happy if dx12 mGPU becomes a thing.

Not saying CFX support won't come to Vega (I would be surprised if it didn't) but it will most likely be subpar support.
 
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WeSbO said:
It's somewhat of a good thing that they are moving away from crossfire
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Hey we need AMD/Nvidia to keep investing in advancing multi-GPU tech. It's only going to be a matter of time before the EU get bored of ruining the Television/Hoover markets and decide it's time to ban all GFX cards >140w to reduce energy waste LMAO.
 
ubersonic said:
Hey we need AMD/Nvidia to keep investing in advancing multi-GPU tech. It's only going to be a matter of time before the EU get bored of ruining the Television/Hoover markets and decide it's time to ban all GFX cards >140w to reduce energy waste LMAO.
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In that case AMD would be royally screwed on the gpu front :D
 
kundi said:
Dude, you're creating controversy where there isn't any. We knew about the bios already, that article you linked was posted yesterday and has hundreds of upvotes/comments on reddit. The person right above you even posted it's because of the bios.

I'm not saying it needs to match other reviews, but when all other reviews show similar results the one that is drastically different to be considered suspect.
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My main point is it was pulled on the whim of the vendor, they could have kept it up.

Do you think this would have been pulled if ASUS didnt request it, even if many readers did?

Its not an independent review, if the vendor doesnt like the results as proven here they intervene. Now they getting an entire new card which is ridiculous, do ASUS send new cards to customers when they lose the silicon lottery?
 
But why would the site want to keep up a review of a card that didn't match what everyone else were getting.

The public would look at it, think Guru3D must be rubbish as their review is so far off the mark compared to others and then wouldn't come back. That would lead to lost readers and revenue.
 
ubersonic said:
You say that as a joke, but having used hundreds of cards from dozens of vendors over the decades I have to say this is the best two slot blower I have seen. When I was benchmarking the V64 I had it in the same machine as a GTX1080 to save time (yes you can do that if you're not using PhysX benchmarks) and something that surprised be was just how much better the V64 blower was compared to the Nvidia one. At the same fan percentage it was pushing noticeably more air out of the card while producing a less annoying noise.
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The sad thing about blower coolers is amd and nvidia seem somewhat stuck in this mindset that if a card has to have a fan on it, then it needs to be a single blower. AMD has veered away from this to some extent with 3 fans on the 7990 (still a pathetic cooler) and an aio on fury x and vega. But nvidia seem to content to recycle the same pos cooler, change the shroud a little and let the cooler tank the boost clocks which in turn affects the performance. I just don't get why they cant try different designs with multiple fans more often. Open air coolers (2/3 fans) only affect internal case temps by around 3c, so its not like the doomsday scenario that people used to dream up in the past of "oh meh gawd your case will be cooked inside". At the very least they can have a quieter card and better boost clocks than they could with these crappy little single fan heatsinks.
 
Gerard said:
The sad thing about blower coolers is amd and nvidia seem somewhat stuck in this mindset that if a card has to have a fan on it, then it needs to be a single blower. AMD has veered away from this to some extent with 3 fans on the 7990 (still a pathetic cooler) and an aio on fury x and vega. But nvidia seem to content to recycle the same pos cooler, change the shroud a little and let the cooler tank the boost clocks which in turn affects the performance. I just don't get why they cant try different designs with multiple fans more often. Open air coolers (2/3 fans) only affect internal case temps by around 3c, so its not like the doomsday scenario that people used to dream up in the past of "oh meh gawd your case will be cooked inside". At the very least they can have a quieter card and better boost clocks than they could with these crappy little single fan heatsinks.
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Isn't this the first time that AMD have used a vapour chamber/flat heatpipe type heatsink on a ref blower design, not sure ? If so, I guess that's at least a step in the right direction for AMD at least. But yeah it is hard to understand why the ref designs are usually so bad, especially at a time when esthetics play a major role in peoples purchasing habits when it comes to PCs, so it's not like they would really be taking business off of their AIB partners, the cards will still be very different.
 
Gerard said:
The sad thing about blower coolers is amd and nvidia seem somewhat stuck in this mindset that if a card has to have a fan on it, then it needs to be a single blower. AMD has veered away from this to some extent with 3 fans on the 7990 (still a pathetic cooler) and an aio on fury x and vega. But nvidia seem to content to recycle the same pos cooler, change the shroud a little and let the cooler tank the boost clocks which in turn affects the performance. I just don't get why they cant try different designs with multiple fans more often.
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They can't use open air designs on high end reference cards because they have to work in all cases and in workstations, hence the blower design.

The 7990 was an anomaly because it was a 400w dual GPU card that AMD never intended ot produce, but after the AIB partners had success with their 7970X2 cards AMD jumped onboard and released it using the cooler from the S10000 professional card.
 
WeSbO said:
Isn't this the first time that AMD have used a vapour chamber/flat heatpipe type heatsink on a ref blower design, not sure ? If so, I guess that's at least a step in the right direction for AMD at least. But yeah it is hard to understand why the ref designs are usually so bad, especially at a time when esthetics play a major role in peoples purchasing habits when it comes to PCs, so it's not like they would really be taking business off of their AIB partners, the cards will still be very different.
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They've had vapour chambers in the past, 69 series had them as well. We're really getting to a point where they need to rethink these things as the blowers are simply not upto the job anymore.
 
Did anyone check 17.9.1 for crossfire?

Also need few technical details on liquid cooled:
which way to move the switch on top for power saving mode
whats are lowest voltages and corresponding clock speeds for core and memory
how to switch off the red/blue led effects - even the wraith spire on the 1700 has a red circle illumination, how to switch that off as well?

i kind of got this coolermaster box 5 ... the default fan at back throws air out of the system.. want to reverse it - something with the screws, anyone faced the same problem?
 
yes looked at the release notes.. looks like an incremental update.. the kind of stuff that issac newton did in his spare time - so if i change x by a small value, small enough but not zero...

amd should hire a chief prioritization officer.. another weekend wasted :(
 
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