The Windows 8 Thread

ecksmen · 15 Jan 2012 at 10:48

MR.B said:
Metro is better for the "average" home user, but it's also better/quicker for pretty much anyone, including for work use...

... As you can see theres a VERY tiny space that lists your installed programs which you have to scroll through constantly. What makes things worse is that you have to hunt through folders and sub folders to find something. When opening all these folders it makes the list longer so you have to scroll even more. On my monitors (2560x1600) this really is an insane waste of space as no matter how high your displays resolution is the list does not scale with res and only ever shows 20 folders / programs!

One way to solve some of these problems is to use the old XP style menu's (heres an example when used on Win 8)...

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... This atleast makes more use of space - but it's still a total mess to look at, and you still have to search through sub folders, which again makes sub menu's appear, sometimes going down a few layers of sub menu's. It's also awkward when you do have to scroll up and down as the list auto scroll's and sometimes goes past stuff you're looking for. So once again, not exactly great.

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Manually navigating through the start menu is a bit annoy, but then who does that? I search all the time and fly through the thing.

Regularly used items are either pinned to the task bar or start menu.

Simiarly, if when installing a new application you take some time and care and change the default paths presented you can get a much cleaner and easy to use start menu. If you leave installs to default paths and don't use search I can see your point, but then you could argue that#s just lazy and not the start menu fault.

robinbredin · 15 Jan 2012 at 12:27

CES 2012: Windows 8 Demo, also confirms that late Feb for beta, and hopes that everybody will download it.

http://youtu.be/Wd1wvZvarFM

MR.B · 15 Jan 2012 at 13:45

ecksmen said:
Manually navigating through the start menu is a bit annoy, but then who does that? I search all the time and fly through the thing.

Regularly used items are either pinned to the task bar or start menu.

Simiarly, if when installing a new application you take some time and care and change the default paths presented you can get a much cleaner and easy to use start menu. If you leave installs to default paths and don't use search I can see your point, but then you could argue that#s just lazy and not the start menu fault.

Well like i said, 88% of people already dont use the Start menu to launch apps, but atleasts theres improvements in Win 8 for when you do use it.

1. You can search atleast as easily with Metro as it displays things full screen and in a way that isn't a mess, with larger icons you can quickly recognise, and with app suites grouped together. Not everyone will like it i'm sure but it's definitely more user friendly for most people.

2. You shouldn't even have to change any paths in the first place. If you manually have to change many things in the current Vista / 7 Start menu to even get it usable then of course it's the Start menu's fault. Even the default size is useless and doesn't scale with res. The whole thing is really poor and the only reason people find it acceptable is because they've been using it or similar designs for so many years.

@EDDS: the link in your sig needs it's own thread LOL

Photek · 15 Jan 2012 at 14:06

robinbredin said:
CES 2012: Windows 8 Demo, also confirms that late Feb for beta, and hopes that everybody will download it.

http://youtu.be/Wd1wvZvarFM

*face palm* Youtube comments makes me wish someone would invent a device where i can stab people in the face over the internet.... it's just the the stupidly of them!! :rolleyes:

but anywayyyy..

Video itself it's pretty cheesy. Much prefer the videos from the developer BUILD conference. Cant wait for the BETA though but it was already confirmed.

Number_25 · 15 Jan 2012 at 15:53

Photek said:
*face palm* Youtube comments makes me wish someone would invent a device where i can stab people in the face over the internet.... it's just the the stupidly of them!! but anywayyyy..

Video itself it's pretty cheesy. Much prefer the videos from the developer BUILD conference. Cant wait for the BETA though but it was already confirmed.

She's no Bill Gates.

Glaucus · 15 Jan 2012 at 17:14

Number_25 said:
I tried the Windows 7 beta release and it was horrid, kept freezing all the time on my old system.

When Windows 8 BETA comes out I'm going to download is straight away!

Been absolutely fine for me.

ng93 · 15 Jan 2012 at 17:39

YouTube Top Comment said:
ugh, good for a tablet but not a pc... wtf microsoft... went from becoming the mainstream to now adapting to the current mainstream... Apps? whatever happened to programs =.=

hehe, god i love the youtube comments

EDDS · 15 Jan 2012 at 18:07

Number_25 said:
She's no Bill Gates.

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what a sexy picture, i could almost.... to that. ;)

[USER=28768]@MR.B[/USER] lol yeah, love the way they don't mind taking the **** out of themselves.

GTO656 · 15 Jan 2012 at 18:19

is there any set release date for Windows 8?

Glaucus · 15 Jan 2012 at 18:34

GTO656 said:
is there any set release date for Windows 8?

nope, rumors june-september

Number_25 · 15 Jan 2012 at 18:47

Microsoft have completley changed their outlook and viewpoint on things when it comes to the Windows Operating System.

It's either going to be a massive success or a huge failure.

Psyisk · 15 Jan 2012 at 23:32

I think il be sticking to 7 tbh, Id be still on xp if it hadnt become so outdated in terms of using ram

mrbios · 15 Jan 2012 at 23:34

Number_25 said:
Microsoft have completley changed their outlook and viewpoint on things when it comes to the Windows Operating System.

It's either going to be a massive success or a huge failure.

It's microsoft. It'll be viewed as a huge failure even if it is a massive success.

Django x2 · 15 Jan 2012 at 23:38

marc2003 said:
you can change the height of the start menu in windows 7

(clean install of 2008 R2 but it's the same thing )

i hope the metro screen is easier to organise in the beta of windows 8. it's crap in the dev preview.

How have you got the Orb in 2008 R2??

marc2003 · 15 Jan 2012 at 23:42

server manager>add features>desktop experience.

after windows has restarted, you need to open services.msc, change the themes startup type to automatic and then manually start it. you should now be able to select aero in the preferences.

Glaucus · 16 Jan 2012 at 00:04

Psyisk said:
I think il be sticking to 7 tbh, Id be still on xp if it hadnt become so outdated in terms of using ram

Oh dear. Windows7 is far superior to xp, in probably every way.

Number_25 · 16 Jan 2012 at 02:28

mrbios said:
It's microsoft. It'll be viewed as a huge failure even if it is a massive success.

Thats a good thing though! Only makes them work harder to improve the software they release!

Kutter · 16 Jan 2012 at 02:31

Do you think they will sell the preorders cheap like they did with windows 7?

ng93 · 16 Jan 2012 at 11:49

doofski said:
Do you think they will sell the preorders cheap like they did with windows 7?

Probably but nothing's been confirmed.

Django x2 · 16 Jan 2012 at 13:55

marc2003 said:
server manager>add features>desktop experience.

after windows has restarted, you need to open services.msc, change the themes startup type to automatic and then manually start it. you should now be able to select aero in the preferences.

Ahh yeah, I had read that before. Do you run that as your main rig OS then?