Throw a full grid onto the track and every part of the track is a challenge.
There's very quick.....then there's F1!
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Throw a full grid onto the track and every part of the track is a challenge.
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That is unbelievable!!
Yeah you only have to see the comparative lap times on a gp weekend to see how much faster they are. I was amazed the first time I compared the porsche supercup laptimes round barca to the F1 guys on the same weekend.
Or the laptimes to motogp or superbikes round the same circuit.
1.52 for a porsche around barca
1.42 for a moto gp bike.
1.22 for a f1 car roughly.
Amazing difference.
Or the laptimes to motogp or superbikes round the same circuit.
1.52 for a porsche around barca
1.42 for a moto gp bike.
1.22 for a f1 car roughly.
Amazing difference.
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That's insane.
safety.
just playing f1 2010 gave me new respect for all F1 drivers (even bruno senna), just hitting every apex in 1 lap is hard yet they do it for 70 laps and are inch perfect every time and they have the g forces and the heat.
the are incredible drivers.
absolutely no doubt, but doing that weekend after weekend from the age of probably 6-7 probably gives them a bit of an advantage....
In truth though driving flat out is exhausting, the duration they do it over, and the consistency lap after lap is absolutely superb
I'm not amazed by the speed difference, I am amazed by the difference in the driving line taken, the F1 guys just go straight through the double bend virtually in a straight line, removing the need for big steering, braking and maintaining outright speed.
Then watch all the nobbers in the first video again, its fast driving 101 surely?
Then watch all the nobbers in the first video again, its fast driving 101 surely?
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That is a big difference, it's pretty amazing really, I wonder if anything could beat an F1 car if there were no restrictions?
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I think the slight difference in camera angle changes it a little bit here. The F1 cars go so straight as they have zero body roll and amazing grip (best grip of any 4 wheel car?) a road car just can't match that, it has to take the wider line as it can't maintain the straight line of F1.
They are also possibly less inclined to take the fully kerb mounting option to get around the track, as the people driving these cars probably have to pay for there upkeep too! Plus they're on a track day having fun, not trying to get a world title out of it...
As for calling them nobbers, HA! and LOL
I think the slight difference in camera angle changes it a little bit here. The F1 cars go so straight as they have zero body roll and amazing grip (best grip of any 4 wheel car?) a road car just can't match that, it has to take the wider line as it can't maintain the straight line of F1.
They are also possibly less inclined to take the fully kerb mounting option to get around the track, as the people driving these cars probably have to pay for there upkeep too! Plus they're on a track day having fun, not trying to get a world title out of it...
As for calling them nobbers, HA! and LOL
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Your post makes no sense.
The F1 cars have zero body roll with great grip allowing them to go fast in a straight line the other cars dont have so much grip and dont corner as well so they take wider lines to get round the corners?
The fastest way from A-B is a straight line, on any S bend if at all practicable you take the line that requires the least cornering effort and carries the highest speed, IE the straightest line.
Just look at the difference in the lines taken, they are not even close, every single F1 car goes through those bends virtually arrow straight, the cars in the second Video seem to of been to the Jeremy clarkson school of going round a corner, IE a lot of fuss and not a lot of speed.
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I counter that with your post makes no sense?
Body roll has nothing to do with straight line speed? Where did you get that from? Grip in this respect also has nothing to do with straight line speed, we're talking about actual traction through corners here, neither track is wet for example.
The cars of lesser than F1 spec take less than a straight line through the corners as that's what physics dictates, they don't have the grip, they do have body roll hence them not being able to keep on the tight line?
And yes, they go through straight as they are riding the kerbs, they don't mind doing this, none of them exhibit anything like Jeremy Clarkson style of wagging tale and smoking tyres, your imagination has got the better of you.
Perhaps I've got the wrong end of the stick, perhaps you're trolling, perhaps a choice of words in my post confused you?
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in the first vid there is a focus (or similar car on the track) how can that corner as fast as an F1 car when its up on two wheels in the corners due to, oh yes, body roll...
I've got a feeling pretty much everyone of those drivers in the first video will be quicker than you around that track.
They do take the corner pretty straight tbh, Most hitting the 2nd apex later.
Load transfer still occurs regardless of body roll. A regular car would never get on two wheels while cornering, the tyres would slide before that happened.
Put super grippy slicks on and even with epic roll resistance it will get up on two wheels under hard cornering, just look at the 90's BTCC machines.
I'm no expert, but I'd say the cornering speed of an F1 is almost entirely down to the downforce.