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radderfire said:
It's a great place to visit. Dublin is lively and has nice pubs and restaurants. The people are pretty friendly. Outside of Dublin, the countryside is quiet and very picturesque.
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Cheers.

Sounds like the event itself is very full on but hoping to take some running stuff.
Just need to work out wheee it is!
 
What are people's thoughts on moving to the same job role in a different industry which offers greater opportunities for progression, but initially on a lower overall compensation (salary plus benefits, pension, etc)?

I feel now is probably not the right time for me (want to finish a number of internal projects in my current role and get my experience signed off to achieve chartered status), especially with the impending economic downturn, but I'm getting multiple offers on a weekly basis from interesting companies but they're all offering much less overall even though the headline salary is similar, mainly due to lower pension contributions but my current sector is limited in opportunities to progress much further.
 
I had a proper OK Boomer moment at work the other day. Was in a meeting and all the old dudes were complaining that, when the people in our building (I say ours but I still haven't been back in :D ) are getting less space and having screens removed. So no more dual monitor setups etc. People kicked off and were like, seriously? WTF? The new monitors are all **** as well. People, I think rightly frustrated.

The people in this meeting were like, they should be lucky they're not losing their jobs in the layoffs. They're lucky to have jobs. Lucky to have an office as nice as ours... I was like, huh? So, we don't need to consider the level of expectation for workers? Just tell them, at least they have aircon, unlike some offices people work in? **** me.
MichaelAwkward said:
What are people's thoughts on moving to the same job role in a different industry which offers greater opportunities for progression, but initially on a lower overall compensation (salary plus benefits, pension, etc)?
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If there is more scope, I would, but only if that scope for progression was documented. I've been stung before with false promises.
 
randomshenans said:
I had a proper OK Boomer moment at work the other day. Was in a meeting and all the old dudes were complaining that, when the people in our building (I say ours but I still haven't been back in :D ) are getting less space and having screens removed. So no more dual monitor setups etc. People kicked off and were like, seriously? WTF? The new monitors are all **** as well. People, I think rightly frustrated.

The people in this meeting were like, they should be lucky they're not losing their jobs in the layoffs. They're lucky to have jobs. Lucky to have an office as nice as ours... I was like, huh? So, we don't need to consider the level of expectation for workers? Just tell them, at least they have aircon, unlike some offices people work in? **** me.

If there is more scope, I would, but only if that scope for progression was documented. I've been stung before with false promises.
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I take the salesman perspective unless the contract is signed and rhe money in the bank, it’s not done.

Seriously so people still fall for “promises” at work?
 
Off to Germany for week, Berlin.

As fun as this is or could be it's basically going to be 12hr+ days of work related conversations and opportunity seeking for days. Furthermore most companies plan this trip 6+ months ago, we've done it this week. So hotels are booked up (over 145k people from around the world attend this thing). It's not really going to be a "jolly" although I will certainly do my best to enjoy it.

I mean the conference has a lot of opportunity for us as a business/project and it should be good. However it's going to be knackering. I hope the directors that are going with me will be in good form...
 
Freefaller said:
Off to Germany for week, Berlin.

As fun as this is or could be it's basically going to be 12hr+ days of work related conversations and opportunity seeking for days. Furthermore most companies plan this trip 6+ months ago, we've done it this week. So hotels are booked up (over 145k people from around the world attend this thing). It's not really going to be a "jolly" although I will certainly do my best to enjoy it.

I mean the conference has a lot of opportunity for us as a business/project and it should be good. However it's going to be knackering. I hope the directors that are going with me will be in good form...
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Executive hobnobbing rather than booth money. 5Ps. As an exec you should have some thought leadership IO perhaps on a panel or two but better still a opening on a track/workshop. If your marketing (and presales) hasn’t built up interest in you then you’re just going to have to smile and wave :) plenty of off the cuff hobnobbing and intel collection..
 
Freefaller said:
Off to Germany for week, Berlin.

As fun as this is or could be it's basically going to be 12hr+ days of work related conversations and opportunity seeking for days. Furthermore most companies plan this trip 6+ months ago, we've done it this week. So hotels are booked up (over 145k people from around the world attend this thing). It's not really going to be a "jolly" although I will certainly do my best to enjoy it.

I mean the conference has a lot of opportunity for us as a business/project and it should be good. However it's going to be knackering. I hope the directors that are going with me will be in good form...
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The one that's 3 letters and the middle is F? Imagine that's gruelling for a whole week, I've done 2 days before and largely as a secondary face/general extra person to help with group interactions.
 
It's Innotrans. A rail infrastructure conference. I'm not a "rail" person per se, I'm an infrastructure sector generalist more than anything although my expertise within the engineering and infrastructure sector is innovation, change management and knowledge management.

So in a way it's going to be an interesting trip but not being a rail geek some things may be missed on me but that's why the engineering director is coming to help us vet the opportunities. The thing is I'd have wanted to set up 1-2-1s with people months ago but it's all a little last-minute.com. However it does mean you get some excitement from flying from the seat of your pants I guess!

I mean don't get me wrong I like going away on business trips, heck I used to take 30+ flights a year. I love meeting people and exploring the art of the possible I just feel less prepared than usual. However my colleagues have been before so hopefully will provide a bit of guidance.

We're not there to sell we're there to seek partnerships and innovative solutions and ideas to help our work be less "traditional" and help elevate what we can do as a sector. So lots of opportunity but I know the battering ram (of change) I'll need to bring into our project may need some momentum. The advantages of having a breadth of colleagues from different disciplines is that we can hopefully create a strong United front - which seems the only way to get things done in this sector, peer pressure and peer validation rather than just a clear business case!
 
Freefaller said:
Off to Germany for week, Berlin.

As fun as this is or could be it's basically going to be 12hr+ days of work related conversations and opportunity seeking for days. Furthermore most companies plan this trip 6+ months ago, we've done it this week. So hotels are booked up (over 145k people from around the world attend this thing). It's not really going to be a "jolly" although I will certainly do my best to enjoy it.

I mean the conference has a lot of opportunity for us as a business/project and it should be good. However it's going to be knackering. I hope the directors that are going with me will be in good form...
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Berlin is a fantastic city so do try and make sure you get to see some of it. Enjoy the conference as well! Hopefully you can bring back some useful knowledge to the UK Infrastructure sector.
 
Agreed. Berlin is amazing. Haven't been in over 10 years so will try and enjoy it as and when I can.

From the prework I've done there's definitely some interesting companies...
 
randomshenans said:
I had a proper OK Boomer moment at work the other day. Was in a meeting and all the old dudes were complaining that, when the people in our building (I say ours but I still haven't been back in :D ) are getting less space and having screens removed. So no more dual monitor setups etc. People kicked off and were like, seriously? WTF? The new monitors are all **** as well. People, I think rightly frustrated.

The people in this meeting were like, they should be lucky they're not losing their jobs in the layoffs. They're lucky to have jobs. Lucky to have an office as nice as ours... I was like, huh? So, we don't need to consider the level of expectation for workers? Just tell them, at least they have aircon, unlike some offices people work in? **** me.

If there is more scope, I would, but only if that scope for progression was documented. I've been stung before with false promises.
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That's not a boomer thing. But a penny pinching thing.

If someone doesn't realize the productivity boon of decent environment and equipment they aren't doing productivity metrics.
 
Hope FF is having a better time than me .. onboarding got locked out of the laptop and it's the third day attempting to get it unlocked.. had offshore support put the phone down twice (same guy).. I've already asked the contacts I have got to escalate... well I've been doing some research in the meantime so it's not all lost.
 
NickK said:
Hope FF is having a better time than me .. onboarding got locked out of the laptop and it's the third day attempting to get it unlocked.. had offshore support put the phone down twice (same guy).. I've already asked the contacts I have got to escalate... well I've been doing some research in the meantime so it's not all lost.
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Sounds fun! :D

I'm not off to Berlin yet... but get this. All the hotels were booked 6 months ago... so the hotel we're in whilst nice, is 1hr commute from the event! Ah well, I'll be able to compare the effectiveness and pros/cons of German commuter life :D
 
Freefaller said:
Sounds fun! :D

I'm not off to Berlin yet... but get this. All the hotels were booked 6 months ago... so the hotel we're in whilst nice, is 1hr commute from the event! Ah well, I'll be able to compare the effectiveness and pros/cons of German commuter life :D
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Still locked out this morning.. I've just been told to wait.. 4 days for IT support.. personally if it was my company I'd be hauling the IT director into the office..

Ahh I've just had a call... lol.. only 4 days..
 
NickK said:
Still locked out this morning.. I've just been told to wait.. 4 days for IT support.. personally if it was my company I'd be hauling the IT director into the office..

Ahh I've just had a call... lol.. only 4 days..
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It takes ages to find the reboot button! Seriously though 4 days is shocking - any reason for it?
 
Freefaller said:
It takes ages to find the reboot button! Seriously though 4 days is shocking - any reason for it?
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Usual suspects, support sticking to process when process doesn’t handle the scenario and everything is automated (except if you know the magic cost saving undocumented way to talk to a human)..

Got introduced today as the Chief TPO on the first call.. spent the day going through presentations and getting feet under the table.

Edit: day 1 done. Beers.
 
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