This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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And sentencing is not down to the police so the whole topic makes little sense.

Sentencing is determined by the sentencing Council. Currently the most one of the most senior police officers sits on that council. So they do have control and if they're not happy they should be making their voices heard.
They're conspicuously quiet.
 
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Regardless of your thoughts about Paul Joseph Watson, the story behind this video is ridiculous.

The police seem to me to be overly academic and not socialised enough to be able to read a real world situation. They have all the theory but seem not to be able to make a judgement.

The police were never like this when I've been around them.

I think as the violence and these riots increase that sort of academic police are going to struggle.
 
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Well, the my current complaint with the police has failed to be answered within their own 28 day deadline.

Twice.

Remind me why we're meant to respect them again?

The reason theyre delaying is because if you want to escalate it to a judicial review there are strict timelines imposed by the courts, by stringing you along repeatedly that date will come and go and then they can just fob you off with impunity.
 
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The reason theyre delaying is because if you want to escalate it to a judicial review there are strict timelines imposed by the courts, by stringing you along repeatedly that date will come and go and then they can just fob you off with impunity.

Its not a complaint about their actions towards me but rather their complete inaction on a crime (theft and handling stolen goods) I reported. I literally gave them all of the evidence they could ever need and they just couldn't be bothered.
 
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Anyone else read the new police report in the news today

it's obviously populist for organisations cricket/sport to fall on their swords with damming self-critical reports on racism etc. to sate public blood lust.

in their turn, they had a voluntary survey, but don't say what percentage of participants raised complaints or how representative of the organisation that is statistically - completely remiss,
I don't see why they would burn the whole organisation.
One-to-one telephone interviews with survey respondents revealed misogynistic and predatory behaviour
Of the 11,277 officers, staff and volunteers who responded to our survey (this was the highest ever response to one of our surveys), 668 volunteered for follow-up interviews with us. We interviewed 42 of them (all except one were women). Their accounts included sensitive detail, some of which amounted to allegations of criminal offences. These included female officers and staff alleging sexual assault by male colleagues in the workplace and at social events. Other, less serious matters (some of which may nevertheless amount to misconduct, and in some instances possibly gross misconduct) included:

senior male officers pursuing women in lower ranks for sex, including via the force email system;
viewing pornography at work – for example, male officers (including supervisors) viewing pornography on suspects’ phones (not as part of investigations) and inviting other officers to view the images on screen;
sending pornography to female colleagues’ phones;
inappropriate sexual comments by male officers, including comments about a victim’s breasts, comments about vulnerable sex workers who were victims of crime, and many other disparaging and insulting comments about female victims in general;
at work-related social events, a senior male officer pestering female colleagues for sex. He sought to take advantage of those who he could see had clearly been drinking alcohol;
male officers making a point of stopping cars driven by women they regard as pretty, a practice they referred to as “booty patrol”; and
male officers, including supervisors, making sexually explicit comments about female members of the public.

 
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Been watching the auditor videos for years, the new rabbit hole is driving without registration and a drivers license.

Apparently you only need one for commercial activities. I checked Georgia state regulations and everything mentions commercial not private traveling. Although the cops are liable to drag you out of the car since they don't actually understand the laws.
 
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whilst we have youtube , cretins like the auditor or bianca williams folks that like to film interaction with the police and people who then take that as representative of all the organisation the polarised situation won't improve.

those actors should consider how much police time gets wasted on them, when more deserving investigations could take priority, similarly policing of Colston tear down, Everard vigil.
 
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whilst we have youtube , cretins like the auditor or bianca williams folks that like to film interaction with the police and people who then take that as representative of all the organisation the polarised situation won't improve.

those actors should consider how much police time gets wasted on them, when more deserving investigations could take priority, similarly policing of Colston tear down, Everard vigil.
The police don't have to investigate for longer than 2 minutes to know what the deal is but instead they try and intimidate and show their lack of training, restraint and IQ.
 
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Regardless of your thoughts about Paul Joseph Watson, the story behind this video is ridiculous.


Yeah this is part of why the UK needs stronger free speech provisions, I think a lot of the auditor types are being numpties this guy doesn't seem to be one of them but has just called the officer a **** head, AFAIK if there isn't anyone else around then there isn't a public order offence there.

IIRC you can actually swear at or insult the police (obvs it's not a good idea and it's likely rather unnecessary) and so long as there aren't other members of the public within earshot then you're not committing an offence.

The officer blatantly knows this and comes out with some utter BS excuse claiming that there are members of the public within earshot, I reckon the guy should have run into the house and locked the door, let the numpty officer call for backup if he really wants to arrest someone for calling him a **** head and see how his colleagues feel about spending their time on that.

There was some other video that popped up on facebook the other day of some guy filming some badly parked police cars, as far as the "auditor" types go this one was actually sort of excusable as there is a potentially legit complaint to be made re: parking to the local council and therefore a legit reason to take pictures/film them. Of course, some inspector came out and demanded details then arrested the guy when he insulted the inspector (didn't actually swear, just called him a muppet or a numpty IIRC). Surely an inspector ought to know the law better than that.

In the US it's typically regular police officers who seem to get wound up and then some Police Sgt comes along and has to tell the regular officer that the annoying auditor guy is being annoying but isn't breaking the law.
 
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I've been following this situation too.

Don't the police have to give a the reason why a person is being arrested?
Turns out that he wasn't as squeeky clean as he made himself out to be due to his conviction for stalking. But what gets me is all the videos that're being made about him now. I'm not defending him and I wqent off him a bit when he went behind a paywall but I did begin to wonder how he could afford all these stage stage shows and the artworks he obtained.Some of his livestreams were funny but don't forget about his dog.
 
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This is why the public need tasers, not to protect themselves from regular criminals, but to protect themselves from the police. Luckily you can buy taser modules on ebay quite readily in the UK.

Luckily? You should give it a go and see how that works out.

Stun guns are prohibited weapons and it is an offence to possess them. A stun gun is a weapon that discharges a large voltage of electricity into its target, rendering them incapable of movement for a short time and are very dangerous. It is illegal to import or mail them into this country and the penalties will apply.

If you are found in possession of a stun gun, you could face up to ten years imprisonment and/or a fine. In order to possess, purchase or acquire, or manufacture, sell or transfer such weapons you must have authority from the Secretary of State.

So that's up to 10 years on top of whatever the original issue was.
 
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Luckily? You should give it a go and see how that works out.



So that's up to 10 years on top of whatever the original issue was.

You actually took that seriously? Lol. I actually removed that in the edit because I thought someone would not have the brain capacity to take that in context.

And stun guns, wtf are you talking about?! I said taser module, these are simply step up transformers and are completely legal to own, just like a microwave with it's dangerously high voltage transformer. If I were you I wouldn't get involved in the electronics hobby as you might become apoplectic when you realise the components that go into these devices.

Maybe use this as an educational video?

*** video removed due to swearing ***
 
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