This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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Fubsy said:
"Next week of Britain Burns, flaming trebuchets being launched into the police vehicles as Keir Starmer hides behind his fence"
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Even better if Keir pops his head over the fence and says “your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries”.
I’d pay to see that.
 
Some common sense.

The country needs to have a conversation about false information spread by the far right on social media, Hartlepool’s MP has said.

Jonathan Brash told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme:

The conversation we need to start having is about the way these far-right groups are disseminating false information on social media.
Because I see it almost every single day – straight-up lies about these situations designed to cause violence, to incite racial hatred, to incite people to violence.
We have to deal with that situation because there is so much misinformation and it’s being spread quite deliberately to stoke tension in communities and ultimately it’s the communities that are suffering as a result.
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He added that the unrest “is not in any way, shape or form reflective of Hartlepool, its people, its values”, and that many people have got in touch to “express their absolute disgust” at what was seen on the streets last night.

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This has clearly been co-ordinated on social media earlier in the day, so it’s not clear what the mix was in terms of who was there.
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plasmahal said:
What law? I agree that sentiment and feelings towards who/what the statue represents made many people believe it was just to topple the statue. I think your fibbing if you think there is a law that justifies criminal damage based on feelings.
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Do you know anything about the court case? Read the defences presented and see which ones got accepted and didn’t.
 
Well unless they're willing to ban and geoblock sites (thus annoying billionaires, so it's not happening because we need them apparently) it's a nonstarter 'conversation' that will go nowhere and no doubt cost millions in consultancy/lawyer fees only to end up on a dusty shelf in Whitehall.
 
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I'm sure Cameron's government looked into blocking social media and messenger apps etc. surrounding social disorder after the 2011 riots, they presumably concluded it wasn't feasible in the end, for whatever reason.
 
hurfdurf said:
They got an acquittal because they were correct to topple the statue. A jury found this to be true. The law was clear, that statue should have been toppled years ago. So much so, the police who erroneously tried to charge the heroes who did it couldn’t even argue legally for a retrial.

I’d like to see you argue that it was legally ok to **** yourself drunk on public property in front of people because of self inflicted intoxication.
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Why did the law say the statue should have been toppled years ago?
 
robfosters said:
Why did the law say the statue should have been toppled years ago?
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People wanted it down. The council said it wasn’t there’s to take down, the people who they said owned it said it wasn’t theirs. Years were wasted of passing the buck. When it was taken down, both the council and the Colton society admitted it should have been taken down. It was entirely legal to take it down and should have been taken down in the legal way, as per local government laws and rules say.
 
Kenai said:
Or we could try to get people not to not post rubbish in the first place, rather than try to out rubbish each other
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Oh look, turns out it wasn’t rubbish, and was correct counter information to rubbish.

It’s amazing what some basic critical analysis of the credibility of sources can do.

Low iq racist right wing twitter accounts, probably not credible.

High iq left wing well educated twitter account, credible.
 
PlacidCasual said:
With regard to Twitter and misinformation we're going to have to learn how to live with it. The genie is out of the bottle and one way or another it is going to spread even if we regulate individual platforms to the point of death.
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It’s about learning to recognise what’s credible and what isn’t, or learning to trust people who post well and not take bobsmith1111633433 at face value.
 
hurfdurf said:
It’s about learning to recognise what’s credible and what isn’t, or learning to trust people who post well and not take bobsmith1111633433 at face value.
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The people you're talking about don't want to learn though. They want people like Yaxley-Lennon to post something and they repeat or repost his views word for word.

Many of these misinformation accounts aren't even UK based.
 
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PlacidCasual said:
With regard to Twitter and misinformation we're going to have to learn how to live with it. The genie is out of the bottle and one way or another it is going to spread even if we regulate individual platforms to the point of death.
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I imagine with ai, deepfakes etc it is only going to get a lot worse.
 
StriderX said:
Well unless they're willing to ban and geoblock sites (thus annoying billionaires, so it's not happening because we need them apparently) it's a nonstarter 'conversation' that will go nowhere and no doubt cost millions in consultancy/lawyer fees only to end up on a dusty shelf in Whitehall.
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The answer is simple, you make social media sites legally responsible for the contents. No more of this pathetic we are just the host the content is nothing to do with us. The have algorithms that do a fantastic job of promoting the content which could easily be re-applied to removing the dross.

Twitter for example could remove 99% of the bot accounts tomorrow they are so obvious and follow such clear patterns AI could be trained to do it in no time.
 
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