Could you try none?
Well at least your vacous, pointless and or often irrelevant posts usually differ from one another
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Could you try none?
They were arrested for being in possession of lock on devices, not for a public order offence or breach of the peace, the lock on devices were the literal neccesity critera for the arrest, like I said, unless they myseriously vanished in that 16 hours, the neccesity criteria will not pass ever, either somebody is in possession or they are not, if they retained the lock on devices as evidence, then evidence of what ? being in possession of lock on devices, which is what they were arrested forThe necessity criteria may have passed because the EVENT had been completed. I would imagine the police retained the 'lock on devices' as evidence!
I don't know how my times I have to repeat myself!
Ignorance of the law isn't a defence.... I have already, repeatedly, explained to you what the neccesity conditions for arrest and how 'to charge' isn't one of them.
Can @Colonel_Klinck help with locating where the 'straps' are in the photo posted by Dowie
They were strapped up in the van, you know to keep them secure in transit
You're asking the wrong person, you should be asking the police, they're the ones who decided there were straps for being locked onWhere are the 'straps' that the Republic protestor were 'misconstrued' by the police?
Come on try and engage the old grey matter for a bit....
the lock on devices were the literal neccesity critera for the arrest
The reasons are—
(a)to enable the name of the person in question to be ascertained (in the case where the constable does not know, and cannot readily ascertain, the person's name, or has reasonable grounds for doubting whether a name given by the person as his name is his real name);
(b)correspondingly as regards the person's address;
(c)to prevent the person in question—
(i)causing physical injury to himself or any other person;
(ii)suffering physical injury;
(iii)causing loss of or damage to property;
(iv)committing an offence against public decency (subject to subsection (6)); or
(v)causing an unlawful obstruction of the highway;
(d)to protect a child or other vulnerable person from the person in question;
(e)to allow the prompt and effective investigation of the offence or of the conduct of the person in question;
(f)to prevent any prosecution for the offence from being hindered by the disappearance of the person in question.
causing an unlawful obstruction of the highway
like I said, unless they myseriously vanished in that 16 hours, the neccesity criteria will not pass ever, either somebody is in possession or they are not, if they retained the lock on devices as evidence, then evidence of what ?
Asked what further action he and other members of Republic face, Mr Smith told PA: “We don’t know. We’ve all been bailed, that’s all we know. So, we will hear about whatever happens later.”
being in possession of lock on devices, which is what they were arrested for
It's not hard, you keep spouting ignorance, yet you're ignorant to the reality of why they were arrested spouting irrelevant conditions
You're asking the wrong person, you should be asking the police, they're the ones who decided there were straps for being locked on
Who knows, maybe there wasn't any straps and they made it up
But they would never do that would they
A Just Stop Oil spokeswoman said their plan was "only to display T-shirts and flags", adding: "This is a dystopian nightmare."
Just Stop Oil has confirmed to The Independent that it is one of the organisations attending, and remains “committed to disrupting sporting and cultural events”.
They were arrested for being in possession of lock on devices, not for a public order offence or breach of the peace
unless they myseriously vanished in that 16 hours, the neccesity criteria will not pass ever, either somebody is in possession or they are not, if they retained the lock on devices as evidence, then evidence of what ? being in possession of lock on devices, which is what they were arrested for
They were arrested for protesting in an area not designated for protesting, or at least, planning to protest in an area not designated for protesting, despite there being no law that sets out where an area is designated for protesting
If the straps were real, then why are you asking me where they are ? You need to ask the police were they are as they are ones who confiscated them, that picture was taken when they made the arrestsThe police made up the 'straps' that the protest group said were 'misconstrued'?
There's no confusion, they were arrested for a ******** reason, the real reason is they were arrested for wanting to protest, it's not that difficultYou're just rambling now, AFAIK the police can hold people for up to 24 hours initially before they need to either be released or charged.
Previously you seemed very confused re: why they were arrested so I guess there is some progress here at least:
If the straps were real, then why are you asking me where they are ?
rhetorically
adverb
(with reference to a question) with the aim of producing an effect or making a statement rather than eliciting information.
"‘Did you really think I would just go away?’ he asked rhetorically"
There's no confusion, they were arrested for a ******** reason, the real reason is they were arrested for wanting to protest, it's not that difficult
They were secured in transit obviously, you can see the van full of placards no ? It would be unsafe to transport them all loose in a van and you can also see they had way more signs than they needed so it's pretty obvious they were going to secure those signs onto some things, it's honestly not difficult to understandso the point is why did the Republic protestors require 'straps' to 'secure their signs in place' (secure to what?)
Yes you show a picture of protestors in the "authorised" protesting area, there's no law designating where one can or can't protestThere clearly was, you didn't grasp that for several posts as can easily be seen + there clearly were protestors... these guys seemingly didn't have locking on devices, or rape alarms or suspicion of handling stolen goods:
What (magical?) power to police have to force people, not under arrest, to 'surrender' such items in the streets, parks, roads etc of London?All these magical rape alarms and super straps Could have just been subject to surrender at most if the Police really did think they could possibly be used, But no it's pretty clear the Untouchable militia were sent out to send a message a round up the scum.
Pretty sure the boot lickers will be moaning if the police are successfully sued and have to pay out of their tax money the very people they are enjoying having their free speech suppressedI love when people part quote "laws" you missed this you know the important first bit's
1.2 The exercise of the power of arrest represents an obvious and significant interference with the Right to Liberty and Security under Article 5 of the European Convention on Human Rights, set out in Part I of Schedule 1 to the Human Rights Act 1998.
1.3 The use of the power must be fully justified and officers exercising the power should consider if the necessary objectives can be met by other, less intrusive means. Absence of justification for exercising the power of arrest may lead to challenges should the case proceed to court. It could also lead to civil claims against police for unlawful arrest and false imprisonment. When the power of arrest is exercised, it is essential that it is exercised in a non-discriminatory and proportionate manner which is compatible with the Right to Liberty under Article 5. See Note 1B.
All these magical rape alarms and super straps Could have just been subject to surrender at most if the Police really did think they could possibly be used, But no it's pretty clear the Untouchable militia were sent out to send a message a round up the scum.
Like I said before if you are OK with that, then fine but don't complain when the rainbow TikTok division also comes to check your thinking too, you can't have it both ways.
Yes you show a picture of protestors in the "authorised" protesting area, there's no law designating where one can or can't protest