Soldato
I can't disagree with that!!
This is why people are losing respect for the police...
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I can't disagree with that!!
Disagree, it should in fact be the default and increasingly it is for many forces. Social media is used largely to release information to the public, the same as a press release or article on their website. There's no reason to invite people to troll, harass or otherwise derail whatever that message is at the time, not to mention the huge number of bots and spam. There are times where it's suitable to invite responses for engagement but otherwise it should be one-way communication, and if you still feel the need to be heard there are plenty of other ways to get in touch.
Exactly. Can you imagine the state of the replies to the Met Police account? It'd be a cess pit of uneducated whining and abuse that would benefit nobody.
The BBC are also stirring up pro-establishment trouble constantly with their garbage headlines.
He was given a MINIMUM of 13 years and whilst there's a valid argument that it should just be life without appeal (or whatever it's called here) the judge has to follow guidelines for sentencing.
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So reporting on a sentence handed down for raping children is a garbage headline?
Are you for real?
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That was rhetorical
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Commissario
Erm "Police officer has received a minimum jail sentence of more than 13 years"
I'm not sure what is wrong with what the BBC said, they've stated the minimum he'll serve is 13 years.
I think the addition of minimum (who reads articles?) is rather important context and the lack thereof is prime 'he'll be out in half the time' material.
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our countries too soft on crime, especially the judges...
Beeing a druggie or dependent on alcohol is now a defence that excuses your bhevaiour.
I'm not even joking, real some of the judges statements in your local papers crime section...
It's proper tap on the wrist even for fairly serious crime.
we need life sentences
What was once attempted murder isn ow maybe 2-4 years.... if that... you can be a woman and glass someone in the face and not even see a prison cell...
Care worker glassed woman and hit friend after karaoke suggestion
Sophie Robinson, of Newcastle, lost her temper with the two victims when a member of her group was upset outside a Bigg Market bar and attacked them back inside
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
Too serious for anything less then a suspended sentence
It's like a parody sketch show...
Beautician left mum scarred by smashing glass in face over comment about man
Chelsea Orrock, of South Shields, lost her temper when the woman said she used to go out with her partner when they were at school
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
Another Suspended Sentence....... literally left someone scarred for life and with permanent nerve damage....
32months for attempting to sell ONE KILO of cocaine
Mum took her three young kids with her to sell a kilo of cocaine for gang boss
Rebecca Rowley and Samantha Tait, of North Shields, were being watched by police as they drove high purity cocaine from Newcastle to Cumbria
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
Stab a woman in the chest 57 and 37 months
Two men jailed after woman stabbed in the chest as she walked through park
Tony Gregorio and Lee Burrows, of Newcastle, have been locked up while Chelsea Kane, of Gateshead, got a community order
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
surely attempted murder? they also followed her into a park after some dispute, so they obviously planned to stab her
There was a time not all that long ago that people like this were deemed to dangerous to be in society.
Newcastle thug glassed man with gin glass at family gathering
Ryan Boldra, 28, left his victim with a lip laceration and 'covered in blood' following an attack in 2021
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
another person glassed.... suspended sentence
Why is the UK so violent now? if it because there's almost no detterent anymore
Ironically punching someone a few times is worse than glassing them in the face it seems
Metro station louts who targeted passengers in unprovoked attacks jailed
Two men were assaulted at Hebburn Metro station after being targeted in random attacks
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
I bet if you do the same to someone well known or wealthy the sentences are different.
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Soldato
Just for context the level of reported violent crime in the UK is at an all time low and fallingour countries too soft on crime, especially the judges...
Beeing a druggie or dependent on alcohol is now a defence that excuses your bhevaiour.
I'm not even joking, real some of the judges statements in your local papers crime section...
It's proper tap on the wrist even for fairly serious crime.
we need life sentences
What was once attempted murder isn ow maybe 2-4 years.... if that... you can be a woman and glass someone in the face and not even see a prison cell...
Smashed a glass in another womans face so hard the glass shatteredCare worker glassed woman and hit friend after karaoke suggestion
Sophie Robinson, of Newcastle, lost her temper with the two victims when a member of her group was upset outside a Bigg Market bar and attacked them back inside
Too serious for anything less then a suspended sentence
It's like a parody sketch show...
Left another womans face scarred for lifeBeautician left mum scarred by smashing glass in face over comment about man
Chelsea Orrock, of South Shields, lost her temper when the woman said she used to go out with her partner when they were at school
Another Suspended Sentence....... literally left someone scarred for life and with permanent nerve damage....
32months for attempting to sell ONE KILO of cocaine
so out in what 14months or so?Mum took her three young kids with her to sell a kilo of cocaine for gang boss
Rebecca Rowley and Samantha Tait, of North Shields, were being watched by police as they drove high purity cocaine from Newcastle to Cumbria
Stab a woman in the chest 57 and 37 months
grievous bodily harm with intent.....Two men jailed after woman stabbed in the chest as she walked through park
Tony Gregorio and Lee Burrows, of Newcastle, have been locked up while Chelsea Kane, of Gateshead, got a community order
surely attempted murder? they also followed her into a park after some dispute, so they obviously planned to stab her
There was a time not all that long ago that people like this were deemed to dangerous to be in society.
Newcastle thug glassed man with gin glass at family gathering
Ryan Boldra, 28, left his victim with a lip laceration and 'covered in blood' following an attack in 2021
another person glassed.... suspended sentence
Why is the UK so violent now? if it because there's almost no detterent anymore
Ironically punching someone a few times is worse than glassing them in the face it seems
Metro station louts who targeted passengers in unprovoked attacks jailed
Two men were assaulted at Hebburn Metro station after being targeted in random attacks
I bet if you do the same to someone well known or wealthy the sentences are different.
Crime in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics
Crime against households and people aged 16 years and over, using data from police recorded crime and the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW).
www.ons.gov.uk
I agree some of those sentences seem ridiculously light but to paint the UK as some hotbed of extreme violence is just not right.
Man’s hand ‘chopped off at the wrist by Whitechapel vigilantes’
Police said he sustained a ‘significant knife wound to the arm’
www.independent.co.uk
Soldato
I think you mean a whole life tariff.
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Commissario
Have you got legal training?our countries too soft on crime, especially the judges...
Beeing a druggie or dependent on alcohol is now a defence that excuses your bhevaiour.
I'm not even joking, real some of the judges statements in your local papers crime section...
It's proper tap on the wrist even for fairly serious crime.
we need life sentences
What was once attempted murder isn ow maybe 2-4 years.... if that... you can be a woman and glass someone in the face and not even see a prison cell...
Smashed a glass in another womans face so hard the glass shatteredCare worker glassed woman and hit friend after karaoke suggestion
Sophie Robinson, of Newcastle, lost her temper with the two victims when a member of her group was upset outside a Bigg Market bar and attacked them back inside
Too serious for anything less then a suspended sentence
It's like a parody sketch show...
Left another womans face scarred for lifeBeautician left mum scarred by smashing glass in face over comment about man
Chelsea Orrock, of South Shields, lost her temper when the woman said she used to go out with her partner when they were at school
Another Suspended Sentence....... literally left someone scarred for life and with permanent nerve damage....
32months for attempting to sell ONE KILO of cocaine
so out in what 14months or so?Mum took her three young kids with her to sell a kilo of cocaine for gang boss
Rebecca Rowley and Samantha Tait, of North Shields, were being watched by police as they drove high purity cocaine from Newcastle to Cumbria
Stab a woman in the chest 57 and 37 months
grievous bodily harm with intent.....Two men jailed after woman stabbed in the chest as she walked through park
Tony Gregorio and Lee Burrows, of Newcastle, have been locked up while Chelsea Kane, of Gateshead, got a community order
surely attempted murder? they also followed her into a park after some dispute, so they obviously planned to stab her
There was a time not all that long ago that people like this were deemed to dangerous to be in society.
Newcastle thug glassed man with gin glass at family gathering
Ryan Boldra, 28, left his victim with a lip laceration and 'covered in blood' following an attack in 2021
another person glassed.... suspended sentence
Why is the UK so violent now? if it because there's almost no detterent anymore
Ironically punching someone a few times is worse than glassing them in the face it seems
Metro station louts who targeted passengers in unprovoked attacks jailed
Two men were assaulted at Hebburn Metro station after being targeted in random attacks
I bet if you do the same to someone well known or wealthy the sentences are different.
Have you heard everything about the cases?
Have yo0 got any idea of the guidence for sentencing that these "soft" judges have to follow or have their sentencing overturned?
The news never gives much detail about the court cases, and Judges actually have to follow the law laid own by the government and the guidelines, they also have to bear in mind things like the government telling them "we've not got enough jail cells" or "we're going to run out of jail cells soon, please try and avoid sending people to jail unless you have no other option".
Also you're starting from a false premise, the UK is less violent today than it has been at many times in the past (IIRC the stats suggest it's lower than 20 years ago), you're just getting what would once have been a page 4 item in the local paper delivered to you on the other side of the country, and getting it multiple times per day.
Much the same way a few years back there was the hysteria about "stranger kidnappings" of children after a couple of cases in about 6 months, when the statistics showed that the numbers were basically at their lowest rate for decades, the only thing that had changed was we'd got 24 hour news with space to fill, and a bunch of papers that loved a lurid headline.
I swear people have no idea how limited a reach a lot of news had just 30-40 years ago (local papers, limited space for articles, usually only a few times a week and you were normally hearing about things days after they happened), when half the time you didn't learn about a serious crime 5 miles away, but now you hear of stuff that's happening 200 miles away as easily as you do stuff that's happening a couple of streets away.
I can't remember if it was a forum or a blog, but I used to follow one where a couple of magistrates would create "composite" cases giving the details and ask the people reading to post what the sentence should be (they included links to the sentencing guidelines), taking into account any mitigating or aggravating factors.
It was always interesting seeing the range that people came up with, and how few spotted even the most important factors a judge or magistrate has to take into account (for example was someone coerced into taking part in a crime or was it spur of the moment loss of anger that was unusual and had a much worse consequence than might have been expected, or was it carefully planned and what showed that).
There were instances where people massively underestimated the punishment, and cases where they massively overestimated it and often it hinged on something that didn't stand out unless you were paying attention.
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Man of Honour
They didn't say what the sentence was. So it was probably life.
It's possible to be misleading without lying, and that's what they did. It's common to misrepresent sentencing in reporting nowadays. It stirs up the wannabee vigilantes and spreads fear, so it's good for getting views and ranting (aka "engagement").
Caporegime
Police failed again at getting the job done
Peckham: Protesters block coach over asylum seeker transfer
Police and protesters clashed over a planned bus transfer of asylum seekers from Peckham to Dorset.
www.bbc.co.uk
No they didn't.Police failed again at getting the job done
Peckham: Protesters block coach over asylum seeker transfer
Police and protesters clashed over a planned bus transfer of asylum seekers from Peckham to Dorset.www.bbc.co.uk
They're doing exactly what the government want to keep the peasants fed with garbage.
Caporegime
Well why didn’t they get the immigrants on the coach, that should have been priority
It's dramatic content for a drama addicted populace and it also means the government can blame wokeists for stopping the entire enterprise.
Associate
Slap on the wrist, attend course on tolerance and abit of litter picking probably....
West Yorkshire Police officer pleads guilty to terror offences
Mohammed Adil, of Bradford, was given conditional bail ahead of his sentencing next month.
www.bbc.co.uk