Poll: This Johnny Depp Stuff

[Hades]

Were all well aware that it happens both ways, but just looking at several media outlets with regards to the AH/JD case and they are all very heavily stacked in her favour, I also think society still has a problem with regards to domestic violence vs men, as you said the police were shocking. That needs to change as they are often the first port of call.

I'm aware of plenty of cases where abuse has happened vs a man and when the police turn up they are the ones who end up in the police car as the women bleets on about abuse when they caused it. It happened to me over a decade ago and the stress and anxiety caused by literally having to bare my entire life out to the police to prove my innocence because she outright lied was just ridiculous to say the least. That feeling like your a criminal when you have done nothing wrong, just because she said something without any evidence to back her up. All I can say is thank god I have good friends who have known me for decades.

Sorry to hear what happened to you.

My brother in law was going through a marriage break up with constant arguments. In the middle of a big argument he had the foresight to call me and ask me to come over "just in case". Sure as eggs are eggs she slapped him across the face (he was sitting down in a chair with her leaning over him screaming) and then she called the police alleging he had been hitting her. I have no idea why she didn't think of me being in the room.

It backfired on her because after talking to all three of us they arrested her, rather than him, to separate them for the night. I don't think he ever pressed charges so there were no long lasting consequences for her. But at least it didn't go the other way and him being arrested simply on her false accusation.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

In her testimony she said most of her photos were lost when her account was hacked back 2014 (the fappening thingy)

Ok fair enough, but how come if there were all these photos taken of physical abuse you had sustained on that phone/icloud account, why were there no photos in the public domain of the alleged abuse. I am sure the press/media would have paid tens of thousands for such an exclusive story about how an international movie star beats his girlfriend/wife.

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Part of the reason I am interested in this case, I know way more men who have had to deal with this level of crazy than women who have had abuse and I'd say my demographic of friends is about 50/50.

 

[krooton]

In her testimony she said most of here photos were lost when her account was hacked back 2014 (the fappening thingy)

Ok fair enough, but how come if there were all these photos taken of physical abuse you had sustained on that phone/icloud account, why were there no photos in the public domain of the alleged abuse. I'm am sure the press/media would have paid tens of thousands for such an exclusive story about how an international movie star beats his girlfriend/wife.

Exactly, the kinds of people who happily did the whole fappening thing wouldn't have deleted all the other photos, they literally were just dumping everything.

 

[Droolinggimp]

Exactly, the kinds of people who happily did the whole fappening thing wouldn't have deleted all the other photos, they literally were just dumping everything.

I was going to say, they just basically copied photos from the cloud. If I was the one doing the Fappening and saw blood, on clothes and images of violence, they would have been downloaded too and put out there.

 

[Gerard]

Well when you see the problems that some people, couples, families have, then what they have seems more like a couple of diva's throwing their toys around. I suppose it's important to them, but it seems trivial compared to the horrors some people endure.

So getting a part of a finger chopped off due to some psycho **** throwing a bottle at it is trivial?

It may not be in the realms of an all out brawl but its not exactly a situation where both participants could be described as "mildly miffed" either.

 

[Diagro]

I think AHurd is telling the truth, the Depp fellow looks unhinged.

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[Droolinggimp]

I think AHurd is telling the truth, the Depp fellow looks unhinged.

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you trolling, yes?

 

[Diagro]

you trolling, yes?

What gave me away...

 

[Freddie1980]

This one tough poll:

Who is the worst wife?

 

[Alice In Wonderland]

 

[MatsyLR]

The fact Amber brought up Kate Moss will hopefully allow Kate to be allowed to testify, she already swore that Amber is full of ****.

 

[Gerard]

Her boo boo faces are beyond comical, acting in a porno would be above her "talent" level.

 

[Hades]

The fact Amber brought up Kate Moss will hopefully allow Kate to be allowed to testify, she already swore that Amber is full of ****.

I've also heard it mentioned that because she brought up Depp's ex, his legal team may now be able to refer to her ex as well. Not sure how true that is. But if so, then they can raise the fact she was arrested for domestic abuse against her previous partner.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

When she mentioned Kate Moss, Ben Chew, Depps lawyer smiled and gave a fist bump. He knew right there and then, they got her. The only way Depp loses this is if the jury are a bunch of soyboi weebs.

 

[mrk]

Soy boy, not heard that rare insult in ages, amazing

Amber has issues with tea as well, that automatically puts her into a category of people who should never be mixed with the general population. Those who moan about tea are animals.

And now, this:

 

[Gerard]

We don't need experts to know she's talking ********, Mr Magoo, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles could be on the jury and not buy this badly overacted bs she's peddling.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

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Depps testimony has been consistent for 6 years, Heards has changed almost every single time she tells it. Suffice to say, she is telling fibs. Which means she isn't a credible witness, so that brings the question where her actions malicious? Yes, Depp wins, No, Depp Loses.

 

[Hades]

Being malicious isn't too relevant here. Depp is suing for her story about him abusing her impacting his earnings. So he needs to convince the jury of three things.

1. Was the story, which didn't name him, actually about him and if it was then could a person reasonably interpret it as being about him?
2. Did the story cause him financial loss?
3. Was he actually abusive or not?

Point 3 is, of course, the harder one to disprove for Depp. Even if she was abusive to him it doesn't mean he wasn't abusive to her. All that Head needs to do on this point is convince the jury she was physically, sexually or felt emotionally abused on one occasion and she wins. How credible she is plays a big factor but she can still win even if the jury finds her not very credible, especially if she produces some third party evidence (which she hasn't seemed to do so far).

On the balance of probabilities Heard is most likely to win. Based on what I have seen I don't believe Depp was abusive and so I want him to win - unless she suddenly presents some compelling evidence. He may well win. But it's harder for him to win than Heard to win, as the jury may be emotionally swayed. But regardless I think Depp is doing this to get his side of the story out there even if he loses.

 

[Trig]

Being malicious isn't too relevant here. Depp is suing for her story about him abusing her impacting his earnings. So he needs to convince the jury of three things.

1. Was the story, which didn't name him, actually about him and if it was then could a person reasonably interpret it as being about him?
2. Did the story cause him financial loss?
3. Was he actually abusive or not?

Point 3 is, of course, the harder one to disprove for Depp. Even if she was abusive to him it doesn't mean he wasn't abusive to her. All that Head needs to do on this point is convince the jury she was physically, sexually or felt emotionally abused on one occasion and she wins. How credible she is plays a big factor but she can still win even if the jury finds her not very credible, especially if she produces some third party evidence (which she hasn't seemed to do so far).

On the balance of probabilities Heard is most likely to win. Based on what I have seen I don't believe Depp was abusive and so I want him to win - unless she suddenly presents some compelling evidence. He may well win. But it's harder for him to win than Heard to win, as the jury may be emotionally swayed. But regardless I think Depp is doing this to get his side of the story out there even if he loses.

That about sums it up tbh, how many of the jury will side with the woman because that's just what people are subconsciously programmed to do, women are weak, men are strong, men are abusers and women are always the victim and so on...

 

[Deleted User 234324]

Being malicious isn't too relevant here. Depp is suing for her story about him abusing her impacting his earnings. So he needs to convince the jury of three things.

1. Was the story, which didn't name him, actually about him and if it was then could a person reasonably interpret it as being about him?

As was said in the trial, the article talks about her marriage and her husband, one of the witnesses said, it was clearly about Depp as they were not aware of her ever being married to another man before. She was infact married previously to another women, who she had abused before which is on record, and up until now Depps team were unable to bring that up, but this all changed when Heard herself mentioned one of Depps previous relationships with Kate Moss.

2. Did the story cause him financial loss?

I believe that's already been established with the Disney Lawyer who said no company would want to be linked with that level of negativity, and his termination from Pirates 6 was as a result of those allegations.

3. Was he actually abusive or not?

That really depends on how you define it. If you consider Depp calling her a fat *** as abuse then yes, but on the other hand were his actions retalitory to her constant verbal, emotional and physical abuse which is so far looking increasingly likely. Really does depend on how the Jury interpret it, Depp himself said that the verbal abuse can be just as damaging as the physical, but is him calling her a fat *** any different from her calling him a fat dead beat dad. I think you'll find its hard to class that as abuse as they both gave as good as they got. On the subject of physical abuse, well so far it looks like that is entirely on her as the only instigator and she has a prior history of just that.