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Titan V announced £2700 15TF 12nm Volta

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So in theory on paper it should be 50% faster in games than a titan Xp/1080ti. So finally a card which can run everything in 4k 60fps.

Wish there was some awesome step up one year like the 8800GTX was and we got a 100% strp up one year.
 
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No its only 50% faster than a 1080ti. SLI is disabled so no bridge will work.
50% faster than a 1080ti yet the price is like 6 times the price of a 1080ti


sorry

also whats the point of releasing a $599 sli bridge if it not capable of sli?

i cant see any logic here, hmmm is there any logic in spending 2700 quid on this gpu then?

ALSO:

How come everyone on the gpu forums are so rich? i mean theres someone whos stating the price of this gpu is the same as his tyre cost and someone stating he spends 2700 quid a month on childcare, i didnt know we are all millionaires here yet i scrape at the OCUK clearance section on a daily basis.
 
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While it will have a horrific value fo money proposition, it will quite clearly be by far the faster single GPU you can buy. If you really need the fastest possible, then this is a reasonable solution. The cost is an entirely personal issue. There are plenty of gamers earning 6 figure salaries that live alone in a small house without a mortgae and have zero interest in cars or other expensive hobbies.

It's not just that, though. What honestly needs this much horse power between now and Q2 2018? By which point this card will look very silly for gamers. This thing is over twice as expensive as previous iterations of the brand. There's being extravagant and then there's just being nonsensical.
 
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If the reported hashrate of 3k+ is true then for ZED it'll rake in 50% more per month than x4 1080ti. Something an ASIC miner can't do.

Hmmm... if it really is that high... I might be able to justify it to myself... that would be £350/month at current rates for one card after power... still nearly half that of the Antminer S9 though.

I'm currently making about 2350 Sol/s with 2x Titan XP + 1x 1080ti or about £230/month after power.

Paying for itself in 7-12 months depending on return rate variables... hmmmmmm
 
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I always look at products like that like supercars.

I petsonaly cant afford one but I see market for it and group of people that will buy obe even at 15000 or 50 000.

And I'm happy that NV can and is selling products like that. Products that push their technology to the limit.

So i know what I can look forward to in few minths/years.


Other example 4k OLED tvs. Remember first one??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28926795

It was 11k and now 3 years fown the road my mate picked better one for 2000 so its like 25% of price few years back for even better set.


So i hope next gpu from nv thats in my gpu price range aka 600 will be something not too far off this Titan V.


There are products that one wants but does not know about it Yet FACT :)
 
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50% faster than a 1080ti yet the price is like 6 times the price of a 1080ti


sorry

also whats the point of releasing a $599 sli bridge if it not capable of sli?

i cant see any logic here, hmmm is there any logic in spending 2700 quid on this gpu then?

ALSO:

How come everyone on the gpu forums are so rich? i mean theres someone whos stating the price of this gpu is the same as his tyre cost and someone stating he spends 2700 quid a month on childcare, i didnt know we are all millionaires here yet i scrape at the OCUK clearance section on a daily basis.


So whats the point of buying a watch for 100 000 bucks?? Shows same time as 1 pound one :D
 
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The next Ti will eviscerate this for gaming I imagine as loads of the die is used up by Tensor cores that do nothing unless you are running specialised machine learning software.
 
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Will be very interested to see how it does.

I can write it off as business cost, so claim the VAT back... bringing it down to £2,250 a pop... still expensive... but if it can pay for itself in 6 months then it's a reasonable investment.

As you can tell... I'm trying really hard to talk myself into buying 2 or 4. Doesn't matter if only 1 can be used for gaming... I rarely use both my Titan XPs for gaming, 1 is enough at 3440x1440... so while gpu 1 games, gpu2 continues to mine.

Depending on the hashrate, the S9 might still be the better investment... let's see how it does.
 
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Are there gaming uses for the tensor cores? Weak AI in games is a perennial complaint, for instance.

I'm sure people could find a gaming use for them, but if you ran a game dev would you assign people and time to something that only works on PCs with a £2700 graphics card? I suppose it might have some media value, but it would be cheaper to buy advertising and if a game dev wanted to spend money to stand out as an unusual game dev they could get more media attention by hiring enough people to release a complete, properly tested game on time.

Maybe in the future, but probably not soon since games are designed for mass market hardware.
 
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Unlike the previous Titan it looks like it will be a cut down Pro Tesla card with the full floating point capabilities. And not based on the gaming variants we have been accustomed too. I guess previously this would have been marketed as a quadro card. It's not aimed at most of us so we will have to wait for the real consumer level volta cards in the future (which will likely perform significantly better at regular tasks too).

It will be nice to see reviews.

I expect superb performance, desire, rage, jealousy, awe and wonder.

Pretty much this:


https://www.anandtech.com/show/1213...dia-titan-v-video-card-gv100-for-3000-dollars

Moving on and diving into the numbers, Titan V features 80 streaming multiprocessors (SMs) and 5120 CUDA cores, the same amount as its Tesla V100 siblings. The differences come with the memory and ROPs. In what's clearly a salvage part for NVIDIA, one of the card's 4 memory partitions has been cut, leaving Titan V with 12GB of HBM2 attached via a 3072-bit memory bus. As each memory controller is associated with a ROP partition and 768 KB of L2 cache, this in turn brings L2 down to 4.5 MB, as well as cutting down the ROP count.

In terms of clockspeeds, the HBM2 has been downclocked slightly to 1.7GHz, while the 1455MHz boost clock actually matches the 300W SXM2 variant of the Tesla V100, though that accelerator is passively cooled. Notably, the number of tensor cores have not been touched, though the official 110 DL TFLOPS rating is lower than the 1370MHz PCIe Tesla V100, as it would appear that NVIDIA is using a clockspeed lower than their boost clock in these calculations.

As mentioned earlier, NVIDIA is unsurprisingly pushing this as a compute accelerator card, especially considering that Titan V features tensor cores and keeps the TITAN branding as opposed to GeForce TITAN. But there are those of us who know better than to assume people won’t drop $3000 to use the latest Titan card for gaming, and while gaming is not the primary (or even secondary) focus of the card, you also won't see NVIDIA denying it. In that sense the Titan V is going to be treated as a jack-of-all-trades card by the company.

To that end, no gaming performance information has been disclosed, but NVIDIA has confirmed that the card uses the standard GeForce driver stack. Now whether those drivers have actually been optimized for the GV100 is another matter entirely; Volta is a new architecture, markedly so at times. Speaklng solely off the cuff here, for graphics workloads the card has more resources than the Titan Xp in almost every meaningful metric, but it's also a smaller difference on paper than you might think.

As for NVIDIA's intended market of compute and AI users, the Titan V will be supported by NVIDIA GPU Cloud, which includes a number of deep learning frameworks and HPC-related tools.

The card is being pushed as a compute card,and more importantly,to make sure they keep the card within TDP for more consumer workloads have cut the memory bandwidth and dropped the clockspeeds,and gone with a "wide and slow" approach to drop power.

Will it be faster than a GP102 in gaming,probably,but its massive in comparison,so I expect its more down to brute force.

To keep the power requirements reasonable,they have thrown another 6 billion transistors at the problem over big Pascal and changed the internal organisation of the GPU.

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Now look at the consumer Titan Xp in comparison in terms of memory bandwidth,TFLOPs,etc. Remember HBM2,saves power and GPU die area.

For a 73% increase in die area,and a 76% increase in transistors,FP32 performance has gone up by a whole 15% in FP32 performance and that is on a "new node".

This is clearly a card and GPU made for real work not gaming,as it has massive FP16 and FP64 throughput.

Volta is made on TSMC 12NM which is an improved version of TSMC 16NM,which is lower leakage

https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/tsmc-introduces-12nm-half-node-2016-11/

Regarding gaming Volta cards,I am not so sure,due to this:

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/59816/nvidias-next-gen-geforce-teased-ampere-unveil-2018/index.html

Ampere is probably a new FP32 line which will make up the basis of the sucessor to Pascal,but on the improved node.

I expect we will see a greater increase in FP32,but also the die sizes will be smaller.

It fits with Nvidia now making more dedicated graphics card lines.
 
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