Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.

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StriderX said:
I wonder if billionaires are still going to avoid paying tax as much as possible considering the only possibility of a rescue or recovery is through a state funded by taxes?

Why am I wondering... of course they won't.
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Don't know, this one might be a bit different. Take MH370 as a prime example, the Malaysian government had a vested interest in trying to find the plane so obviously spend a lot of time and money on funding the search.

In this case it was a very small number of individuals, on an excursion. I imagine the state will spend a couple of weeks looking and say at that point no luck. It'll be down to the two billionaire families to privately fund a search mission (assuming they want them back).
 

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Semple said:
Don't know, this one might be a bit different. Take MH370 as a prime example, the Malaysian government had a vested interest in trying to find the plane so obviously spend a lot of time and money on funding the search.

In this case it was a very small number of individuals, on an excursion. I imagine the state will spend a couple of weeks looking and say at that point no luck. It'll be down to the two billionaire families to privately fund a search mission (assuming they want them back).
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Well I hope that's the case as it must be millions per day if not hours.
 

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Reasonable chance they’re on the surface if they’ve picked them on with sonabuoys. Not that it‘s of any use to them inside as they won’t be able to open the door for air due to hypothermia.
 

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TheMightyTen said:
I think it's fairly safe to say that, even if by some absolute miracle they Titan back to the surface and pull at least some of them out alive, that Ocean Gate will wind up as an entity very soon, no way they can survive this as a going concern which ever way it ends up. There are far to many skeletons coming out of the closet.
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If they lowered the price, I'd probably give it a go :D
 

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Greboth said:
The fact a top secret industry that spends $800billion a year didn't design their own controller tells you all you need to know about a) how good modern game controllers actually are and b) the cost to achieve a similar result. Sure there's no lives directly on the line for US drone pilots but equally the US air force aren't going to want drones in enemy hands and especially not because of something as stupid as a controller problem.

As I said, there's lots of serious safety issues to lambast the company for but using a controller isn't one of them.
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I don't have a problem with using a controller in these circumstances as long as you are aware of their weaknesses and it is hard to test a product to the same extent if you design it yourself but on the other hand if you have the experience and qualifications to validate a game controller for this application you should definitely have the knowledge to be able to design and build something like this from scratch using higher grade parts, more focussed on its intended use, which if done well is relatively limited in potential for things to go wrong as it is fairly well trodden as a path.

Designing and producing a game controller isn't actually that difficult - you can get off the shelf ICs (for example ATmega16 series), characterised for above consumer grade use, which handle most of it, you don't need specialised manufacturing to be able to produce a decent shell/skeleton for the device and can use high grade switches and interconnects, etc. than your consumer grade Logitech, etc.

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Reasonable chance they’re on the surface if they’ve picked them on with sonabuoys. Not that it‘s of any use to them inside as they won’t be able to open the door for air due to hypothermia.
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I'm not overly familiar with the systems they use but the Poseidons can locate a submarine down 100s of metres just from someone walking clumsily and can detect, but not accurately locate, even down to 1000s of metres.
 
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Greboth said:
The fact a top secret industry that spends $800billion a year didn't design their own controller tells you all you need to know about a) how good modern game controllers actually are and b) the cost to achieve a similar result. Sure there's no lives directly on the line for US drone pilots but equally the US air force aren't going to want drones in enemy hands and especially not because of something as stupid as a controller problem.

As I said, there's lots of serious safety issues to lambast the company for but using a controller isn't one of them.
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I don't think it is an issue with the controller. It is the fact they rely on wireless communication to navigate. afaik the whole unit that the people live in is simply a carbon fibre tube with titanium steel end caps on. The whole workings are wireless so if something were to happen you are basically fubar. I guess this saves on cost as you do not have wires going from inside to outside the hull.
 
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