My fault, sorry.
Start a new thread, seemed to be quite a bit of interest, and as an East Rand person myself who moved to London (with an 8 year stop in Holland) I'm rather interested.
My fault, sorry.
UK, France and Scandinavian countries should have been involved from the start. Far more capable in this area.The French ROV about to dive down is attached by a cable, the cable is 8km long. Pretty insane!
Yes, 4 days with other people. How much food is there? Who's fault was it, they'll be fighting. Can they even sleep. Must smell foul in there as well.
You'd expect so, they must have a way of contacting the surface vessel.Has anyone read if the missing submersible even has a basic transmitter on it's own battery that will last say 7+ days, to aid location if the vessel is floating just under the sea surface in the middle of nowhere?
Would they have all started gasping for air at the same time? Horrible
This question has been asked a lot and it seems that it doesn't which is a very strange decision. I'd have 5 battery operated ones strapped to the side of the subHas anyone read if the missing submersible even has a basic transmitter on it's own battery that will last say 7+ days, to aid location if the vessel is floating just under the sea surface in the middle of nowhere?
I'm talking about a 1-way beacon, rather than two-way radio.You'd expect so, they must have a way of contacting the surface vessel.
It was mentioned on the beeb that there wasn't one attached to the sub.Has anyone read if the missing submersible even has a basic transmitter on it's own battery that will last say 7+ days, to aid location if the vessel is floating just under the sea surface in the middle of nowhere?
Yes the CEO cut corners like this which is why it turns out so many people were raising safety concerns for years. The viewport was only revised (and no detail on what was revised actually) in 2018 or so after the fired employee went to court for example. It was a private vessel and the CEO thought expert bodies interfering by recommending safety measures etc was "stifling innovation".This question has been asked a lot and it seems that it doesn't which is a very strange decision. I'd have 5 battery operated ones strapped to the side of the sub
Neither are problems when you have no oxygen and no scrubber.Food isn't the problem, someone on the radio said they didn't have much water which would be the bigger problem.
It's not the accuracy, it's how they gathered the data.. their recent working knowledge of the site which included mapping a 3 mile debris field around the Titanic.. It's equipped for surveying which I think includes massively more powerful lights than then other DSVs because that was required for extra detail of the 700000 photo's it took of the Titanic.Yes indeed and maybe if they were looking for something on the wreck in that detail they would be perfect.
They are however performing a wide area search (that increases constantly due to currents they said) which is probably why (I am guessing like all of us) they need capability to scan wide areas faster rather than a smaller area in super high def.
They are also of course balancing both ocean bed, in ocean current and on surface searches.
I suspect they have already a pretty good idea if its in the general area of the titanic (ie basically sank straight down) where that would be 100% perfect, or if they feel its not directly below where it was dropped.
IMO if it is directly below where it was dropped its far more likely to be a massive failure, if its suffered problems with control etc then its far more likely moved away either submerged or on the surface.
Yes I think their communication was a regular "ping" giving a limited amount of information such as depth etc. I read somewhere that it was designed so the submersible would send the information back automatically so that the pilot didn't have to be distracted giving regular updates. But this is what stopped pinging at about 1hr 45m.I'm talking about a 1-way beacon, rather than two-way radio.
Because British company Magellan are considered the subject matter experts when it comes to the area around the Titanic.
Looks like their services offered would have been perfect for this operation:
Full ocean depth MBES - multibeam sonar at depths upto 6000M
Side scan sonar
Sub-bottom profiling
yes, obviously, but we're talking about a nation that touts itself as the superpower and spends trillions of dollars on their military and dark projects. However, they've failed with the knowledge presented of where the vessel dived and knowledge they should have on the currents along with computer models and suitable staff to predict to a reasonably small area where to have been looking. Hence I said the whole situation has shown a massive gapping whole in their capabilities.wat
You have no idea how big and deep the ocean truly is, do you?
It doesn't need to be a current enemy sub now that they know where the gap in detection is they can build something to meet similar depth capabilities.Well when it comes to an adversary, any enemy sub doesn't operate at the depths at play here, think its something like between 600-1000 metres, where as the titanic is around 3800 metres.
So it's taken 4 days for a C-17 to turn up and load their equipment.Plan to fly over Jersey equipment for Titanic sub search called off
A plan to send a military plane to Jersey to fly specialist equipment from the island to help in the search for the lost Titanic submersible has been called off.gsy.bailiwickexpress.com
Magellan released a statement this afternoon:
Magellan is 100% focused on supporting the rescue mission to recover the submersible. We were contacted by OceanGate early Monday, UK time, June 19, and immediately offered our knowledge of the specific site and also our expertise operating at depth considerably in advance of what is required for this incident. OceanGate instructed us to mobilise and “use the means necessary to fly the needed equipment and crew to St. John’s, Newfoundland as soon as possible, stating time is of the essence.”
We have been working full-time with UK and US agencies to secure the necessary air support to move our specialist equipment and support crew. We are ready to support, and we are fully mobilised to help.
Magellan does not wish to comment on any specific media report. We also recognize the important role the media plays in disseminating accurate information to the public. We kindly request your cooperation in responsibly reporting on this incident, ensuring that the information shared is accurate and verified. We understand the need for information, but it is equally essential that we as a company focus on the ongoing rescue efforts.
Our thoughts, prayers, and hopes remain with those on board the submersible, as well as with their families and loved ones.