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RIP to all - feel especially sorry for the younger passenger…
Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.
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Carbon fibre part must have just exploded into dust and shards if all they found was the tail and landing getup.
Soldato
Yeah yeah, but they should have had a safety and recovery plan what if it had just got stuck?
Seems unprofessional
Think thats bang on.
Soldato
I wonder this too, as according to the press conference, the area ia consistent with last comms, so surely head there first?
Previous maps showed boats miles and miles away.
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They could only physically see the site today as that's when the ROV's arrived
Soldato
Sad. The video I just saw about the CEO loving the way the acrylic screen crackles at depth… just screams fatigue failure to me. Ie change every dive. The collapse at that pressure could be over in 30ms and temperature as hot as the sun.
The carbon fibre surely is insulation too, no pressure vessel with the pressure hogher outside would rely on that. Carbon needs to be in tension . Filament wound fuselage like a 787 Dreamliner is for pressure inside. With outside pressure the forces are compressive so only really as strong as the plastic compound binding the fibres.
The carbon fibre surely is insulation too, no pressure vessel with the pressure hogher outside would rely on that. Carbon needs to be in tension . Filament wound fuselage like a 787 Dreamliner is for pressure inside. With outside pressure the forces are compressive so only really as strong as the plastic compound binding the fibres.
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its been down to the titanic 3 times before and remained intact
you cant just say "clearly wasnt up to the job"
This media lot asking questions really are dumb.
Soldato
We can all agree his arrogance will have led to naivety and this has cost lives..
https://www.compositesworld.com/articles/composites-end-markets-pressure-vessels-2023 - Reusable vessels (under tension, not compression of course) that can take 5000psi (not far off the pressure at the Titanic) storing hydrogen safely.
I would like to learn more, actual facts and understanding of his design/validation process. The concept of the design is not that crazy (the more I look in to it), it has made 3 paid dives to the titanic which IMO makes it have some merit from a conceptual point of view.. it needs clearly more validation, some design tweaks, but I can see how it could be made to work reasonably safely and be somewhere towards the requirement of being able to be cheaply produced at a point that extreme tourism and increasing access for exploration reasons might be achievable.
RIP once again to all those involved.
I see lots of talk over Carbon fiber and the "ludicrous" nature of the design, but for the sake of conversation, carbon fiber pressure vessels using filament wound methods is a 'thing'...
https://www.compositesworld.com/articles/composites-end-markets-pressure-vessels-2023 - Reusable vessels (under tension, not compression of course) that can take 5000psi (not far off the pressure at the Titanic) storing hydrogen safely.
I would like to learn more, actual facts and understanding of his design/validation process. The concept of the design is not that crazy (the more I look in to it), it has made 3 paid dives to the titanic which IMO makes it have some merit from a conceptual point of view.. it needs clearly more validation, some design tweaks, but I can see how it could be made to work reasonably safely and be somewhere towards the requirement of being able to be cheaply produced at a point that extreme tourism and increasing access for exploration reasons might be achievable.
RIP once again to all those involved.
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They'd done tests on a small scale model showing the fatigue flaws from repeated compression and decompression cycles.
The guy who raised concerns over flaws developing in the carbon fibre was promptly fired.
Soldato
The whole thing seems like a clown show to me, I don't think they could have been saved but it makes you wonder about the state of the vessel.
Soldato
Put another way.... "It's been down to the Titanic a few times and then imploded"
I think you clearly can say it wasn't up to the job.
Soldato
I was thinking of the words to write here...I'm going to steal houseys words
Tragically fascinating
Tragically fascinating
Soldato
Why are they still hung up on 'the noise' gees that could have been bloomin anything!
That sub blew up 4 days ago probably about 1 second after it lost contact. Any noise since then is irrelevant.
Caporegime
Have to assume they ask some of these questions on purpose to garner a certain reaction.
Soldato
Yep ticking time bomb run by a bunch of amateurs
Caporegime
I was hoping one of them would be found and rescued, would've made for a better film in a few years time.
Soldato
Opposite direction, those are stretching the carbon making the most of its tensile strength properties.
Pretty much it’s a submersible de Haviland comet in my view.