Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.

GarethSouthgate · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:14

It'll no doubt be the subject of a documentary in the future.

Quartz · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:19

RIP to all.

Minusorange · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:21

The US Navy detected “an acoustic anomaly consistent with an implosion” shortly after the Titan lost contact with the surface, an official has told CBS News, the BBC's US partner.

The information was relayed to the US Coast Guard, which used it to narrow the radius of its search, the official added.

The banging that was reported earlier is now thought to have been coming from other ships in the area, CBS reports.

Jokester said:
Not sure about that, it sounds like Oceangate sat on pertinent information.

It's a small community, I wouldn't be surprised if info is passed around those who know each other

Mr Joshua · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:22

Minusorange said:
I think it means there's a lot more known about the wreck site, but the people doing the press conference only want to give out info what they know is a fact, which is sensible for such an incident

I'd go along with that after hearing their interviews. Perhaps the ballast isn't present or is separated from the part of the sub where it should be attached.

delta0 · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:26

Psycho Ned said:
Indeed that was one of my thoughts, some lawyers are gonna get rich out of this.

Signing a waiver is one thing, but if the craft wasn't fit for purpose or in the state they claimed I think there are going to be all sorts of civil cases incoming.

Correct. A waiver does not exempt them from liability. People will be going to jail for this.

Sankari · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:27

Good Lord.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1671981391649579045

At least it was too fast to be painful.

sigma said:
It'll no doubt be the subject of a documentary in the future.

There's already one in production, IIRC.

Jokester · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:29

Minusorange said:
It's a small community, I wouldn't be surprised if info is passed around those who know each other

Well yeah, the US Navy gave them the info, not Oceangate. Certainly looks like people within the organisation were talking to friends, but officially if doesn’t look like Oceangate themselves were being completely open to the various rescue organisations.

Quartz · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:30

delta0 said:
People will be going to jail for this.

Why? The culprit is now dead.

Neil79 · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:31

gingergundog said:
Pretty much comes down to the CEO putting too much faith in his hull monitoring system while using a carbon fibre hull that should have been used once only

Carbon Fibre scuffs, cracks n scratches on cars... No idea why they thought it would survive the ocean

Minusorange · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:42

Jokester said:
Well yeah, the US Navy gave them the info, not Oceangate. Certainly looks like people within the organisation were talking to friends, but officially if doesn’t look like Oceangate themselves were being completely open to the various rescue organisations.

I don't quite understand what you're implying ? Do you think Oceangate have been hiding info from the rescue efforts ? Once they lost contact they knew as much as everyone else, so it would require them knowing something while in contact that they haven't mentioned and it would require members of the team keeping quiet too, not sure it's worth conspiracy for such an international incident

Quartz · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:44

I'm reminded of Otto Benz's last words after the motor accident that led to his death: "Sacrifices must be made."

teejay73 · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:45

Weird how the mainstream media are talking about if they are going to try and recover the bodies!!? What are they actually going to recover? Do they actually think that anything resembling a human body is going to be found after a catastrophic implosion?

Jokester · 22 Jun 2023 at 23:48

Minusorange said:
I don't quite understand what you're implying ? Do you think Oceangate have been hiding info from the rescue efforts ? Once they lost contact they knew as much as everyone else, so it would require them knowing something while in contact that they haven't mentioned and it would require members of the team keeping quiet too, not sure it's worth conspiracy for such an international incident

It’s pretty awful to give the victims families hope that there was a chance of rescue when the reality was, given the circumstances of the emergency surface attempt and then lose of contact that they already would have known they were dead by Sunday night, certainly by Monday, with US Nacy corroboration of an implosion.

Maybe behind the scenes the families were told the details and everything else was just a media scrum.

Jay85 · 23 Jun 2023 at 00:12

Sankari said:
Good Lord.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1671981391649579045

At least it was too fast to be painful.

There's already one in production, IIRC.

That sort of crushing force surely would turn a human body into pulp and there would be little if anything to recover? That's if the sea life hasn't been at them yet, it has been a few days since the implosion.

Minusorange · 23 Jun 2023 at 00:20

Jokester said:
It’s pretty awful to give the victims families hope that there was a chance of rescue when the reality was, given the circumstances of the emergency surface attempt and then lose of contact that they already would have known they were dead by Sunday night, certainly by Monday, with US Nacy corroboration of an implosion.

Maybe behind the scenes the families were told the details and everything else was just a media scrum.

I guess, but from their point of view until there's confirmation of a wreck, all options are on the table aren't they ?

Grim5 · 23 Jun 2023 at 00:24

US Navy insider says they already detected the implosion's sound signature several days ago from the US'a navy's classified submarine detection system

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1671998892550782982

Gerard · 23 Jun 2023 at 00:25

Quartz said:
I'm reminded of Otto Benz's last words after the motor accident that led to his death: "Sacrifices must be made."

Otto Lilienthal

Sankari · 23 Jun 2023 at 00:38

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1671960022916448256

Grim5 said:
US Navy insider says they already detected the implosion's sound signature several days ago from the US'a navy's classified submarine detection system

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1671998892550782982

Woulda been nice if they'd said something at the time.

Quartz · 23 Jun 2023 at 00:44

Grim5 said:
US Navy insider says they already detected the implosion's sound signature several days ago from the US'a navy's classified submarine detection system

But did they recognise it at the time? Did they positively identify it at the time?

Minusorange · 23 Jun 2023 at 00:45

Quartz said:
But did they recognise it at the time? Did they positively identify it at the time?

And they need to run the paperwork to get it declassified surely ?