Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.

thenewoc said:
More on this astonishing revelation here...

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Company behind missing Titanic exploration sub 'refused to pay' for making the viewport safe for deep ocean dives: Whistleblower lawsuit

A former OceanGate Director of Marine Operations says that he was "met with hostility and denial of access" to documents necessary in order to make his safety report.
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The mind boggles at this sort of stuff.

Using parts that arent rated for even a third of the depth you intend to go down to!!
 
Jono8 said:
The mind boggles at this sort of stuff.

Using parts that arent rated for even a third of the depth you intend to go down to!!
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Yep and then add the vessel was repeatedly used. It's a wonder it didn't imploded on its first expedition unless that was much less deep.
 
Just trying to catch up with the latest news. Did the pressure chamber they were in just crush into a much smaller size or did it explode into thousands of pieces?
 
I hope the families take comfort in that it would have been quick.


The_One said:
its been down to the titanic 3 times before and remained intact

you cant just say "clearly wasnt up to the job"
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So less successful then the de Havilland Comet 1? I wouldn't fly on an original one of those...

Jono8 said:
I wouldnt like to be in the submarine excursion industry right now...
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I wouldn't want to be a current or past employee of Oceangate or any of their main contractors. I expect the other operators will make a much bigger thing of safety standards and external verification, this should be a big wake up call for the industry about the risks and how they go about mitigating them, so it should be even safer going forward.
 
Trifid said:
I wouldn't want to be a current or past employee of Oceangate or any of their main contractors. I expect the other operators will make a much bigger thing of safety standards and external verification, this should be a big wake up call for the industry about the risks and how they go about mitigating them, so it should be even safer going forward.
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Hopefully. I can imagine there wont be much appetite for going in submarines recreationally for a little while though!
 
byeo said:
Just trying to catch up with the latest news. Did the pressure chamber they were in just crush into a much smaller size or did it explode into thousands of pieces?
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It was carbon fibre, so unlike other solid materials that collapse/bend etc, CF can literally shatter into pieces leaving no trace behind of an original shape. If they find the Titanium end caps then that will basically confirm the hull itself is nowhere to be found.

Some reports of sharks being seen in the area around the margin time frame too, so if the CF shattered leaving them wounded and exposed, sharks would smell that from miles away and swoop in.

Pretty grim.
 
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James Cameron told BBC News the past week had "felt like a prolonged and nightmarish charade where people are running around talking about banging noises and talking about oxygen and all this other stuff".

Basically this. News should be ashamed for turning it into a farce and to an extent all of us for getting our "fix"
 
mrk said:
It was carbon fibre, so unlike other solid materials that collapse/bend etc, CF can literally shatter into pieces leaving no trace behind of an original shape.

Some reports of sharks being seen in the area around the margin time frame too, so if the CF shattered leaving them wounded and exposed, sharks would smell that from miles away and swoop in.

Pretty grim.
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I thought the pressure would have killed them instantly? Whether they were inside the collapsed tube or somehow, in the water
 
The authorities ought to be raiding the homes and offices of that company to secure documentation before anyone is tempted to delete / shred who knew what.

I bet the waiver didn't mention the viewport certification for example.

Appears based on the article above that Rush ruled the roost counter to anyone else's professional opinion or certifications. People were probably in fear of loosing their jobs but some are probably guilty of various wrong doings.
 
Steedie said:
I thought the pressure would have killed them instantly? Whether they were inside the collapsed tube or somehow, in the water
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Most likely I guess, and the news interviews etc people are stating catastrophic implosion and most are thinking about it in terms of normal subs made of metal - I guess nobody can really say for sure because this sub was the first to use a CF hull and the first to fail this way since there's no trial and error testing record to show what happens when one does implode.
 
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thenewoc said:
The authorities ought to be raiding the homes and offices of that company to secure documentation before anyone is tempted to delete / shred who knew what.

I bet the waiver didn't mention the viewport certification for example.

Appears based on the article above that Rush ruled the roost counter to anyone else's professional opinion or certifications. People were probably in fear of loosing their jobs but some are probably guilty of various wrong doings.
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First someone would have to work out if they did anything that the authorities care about.

Dead people is not evidence that a law exists to prevent that sequence of events.

Some generic blaming is always possible but that's a civil matter.
 
mrk said:
Most likely I guess, and the news interviews etc people are stating catastrophic implosion and most are thinking about it in terms of normal subs made of metal - I guess nobody can really say for sure because this sub was the first to use a CF hull and the first to fail this way since there's no trial and error testing record to show what happens when one does implode.
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This explains what would have happened - regardless of the hull being steal or CF I believe:

 
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