Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.

beachBOYken said:
So the debris field was found where it descended and lost contact. Why did it take almost a week to find it, did they not have the required equipment in place to find it sooner? As you would think that would be the first place they would look.
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That was the first place they looked.
The Odysseus/Victor 6000 only reached the site on Thursday morning
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
I am shocked that the US Navy are reported to have heard the implosion on Monday. Oh no I’m not, we called that already.
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They can't disclose, if the Russian/Chinese know where a sub is and the location of the boom they could determine how far a US sub could pick up contacts or help them pinpoint the sub.

Unfortunately nuclear subs are the first and last line of defence, you never compromise
 
alchal said:
They can't disclose, if the Russian/Chinese know where a sub is and the location of the boom they could determine how far a US sub could pick up contacts or help them pinpoint the sub.

Unfortunately nuclear subs are the first and last line of defence, you never compromise
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But they still revealed that they heard something so that argument doesn't work
 
alchal said:
If they disclosed asap they could have pinpointed the sub and tracked it, could have been a boomer.
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That's not correct. All they could tell was that one American ship or submarine picked it up on sonar. America has many ships and submarines. To pinpoint a ship you need far more. The only ways for a submarine to be detected from this were either by collision or by multiple ships picking up the sound reflected from the submarine if it were sufficiently close.
 
MoNkeE said:
I still think the shark thing is coincidence. We can’t keep talking about how they got incinerated in a 4000 degree micro inferno and then crushes to oblivion, then suggest some sharks miles away smelt a steak dinner :p
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Seeing as it was 5 people in a confined tube that collapsed in in them, then I’d imagine it’d resemble more of a Terrine, than a steak dinner.
 
alchal said:
If they disclosed asap they could have pinpointed the sub and tracked it, could have been a boomer.

4 days after, the sub could be anywhere.

So it does work.
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one thing that @Quartz didn't mention is that this happened close to American land. AFAIK they have underwater listening stations around the coast, so it may not even be a ship or sub that detected it. I don't think they've said exactly how it was detected.
 
Quartz said:
That's not correct. All they could tell was that one American ship or submarine picked it up on sonar. America has many ships and submarines. To pinpoint a ship you need far more. The only ways for a submarine to be detected from this were either by collision or by multiple ships picking up the sound reflected from the submarine if it were sufficiently close.
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Okay, so why would they not disclose.

Also how do other subs hunt other subs if they require multiple sources to triangulate?

Wolfpack's? ....
 
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alchal said:
Okay, so why would they not disclose.

Also how do other subs hunt other subs if they require multiple sources to triangulate?

Wolfpack's? ....
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Distance and bearing.

The UK would not disclose either. It's assets may be in the North Atlantic or the Southern Ocean. There is no point in a deterrent when the enemy knows within 500 miles or so where you are for ranging your attack.
 
mrk said:
If you fancy an alarming read:

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Rush also gave the controller to a "mission specialist" (passenger) once who proceeded to hit the sea floor..... Rush had previously stated certifications are no use when it's the pilot that usually makes the mistake ....
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Wow, disregard for safety of the highest order, having major issues with controls, proceed with dive anyway.
 
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alchal said:
Okay, so why would they not disclose.
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My bet is that they've gone through their logs and found the event.

alchal said:
Also how do other subs hunt other subs if they require multiple sources to triangulate?
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I'm sure an actual submariner will be along shortly to give chapter and verse; I only used to work with them and that was many years ago, so my knowledge is highly imperfect. But briefly a sub will detect a noise along a bearing. And different subs make different noises (acoustic signatures). As the sub moves the noise will shift to different bearings. That will allow you to triangulate a static noise. Where it gets fun is when the source of the noise is also moving. If you can classify the source of the noise (e.g. an Astute class sub) then you can look up things like how fast it can go, what its normal speed is, how deep it can go, and so on to better pinpoint the location. And then there's the 3D aspect. There are other complexities and subtleties but those are beyond my knowledge.
 
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