Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.
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That was the first place they looked.
The Odysseus/Victor 6000 only reached the site on Thursday morning
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Couple of James Cameron interviews.
What the actual?!
Apologies if posted already, but it’s just so amateur it’s unbelievable:
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What the actual?!
They can't disclose, if the Russian/Chinese know where a sub is and the location of the boom they could determine how far a US sub could pick up contacts or help them pinpoint the sub.
Unfortunately nuclear subs are the first and last line of defence, you never compromise
Soldato
Insane. Also they crashed it into the bottom apparently.Apologies if posted already, but it’s just so amateur it’s unbelievable:
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But they still revealed that they heard something so that argument doesn't work
If they disclosed asap they could have pinpointed the sub and tracked it, could have been a boomer.
4 days after, the sub could be anywhere.
So it does work.
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Looks like everyone new it was gone sunday , good interview here with Ballard and cameron.
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EXCLUSIVE: Tycoon gave up seats on Titanic sub for father and son
Jay Bloom (pictured with his son Sean) has shared texts between him and OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush showing he was offered a 'last minute price' of $150,000 - $100,000 below the usual price.
That's not correct. All they could tell was that one American ship or submarine picked it up on sonar. America has many ships and submarines. To pinpoint a ship you need far more. The only ways for a submarine to be detected from this were either by collision or by multiple ships picking up the sound reflected from the submarine if it were sufficiently close.
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I still think the shark thing is coincidence. We can’t keep talking about how they got incinerated in a 4000 degree micro inferno and then crushes to oblivion, then suggest some sharks miles away smelt a steak dinner
Seeing as it was 5 people in a confined tube that collapsed in in them, then I’d imagine it’d resemble more of a Terrine, than a steak dinner.
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Which would be the best outcome in these tragic circumstances.
one thing that @Quartz didn't mention is that this happened close to American land. AFAIK they have underwater listening stations around the coast, so it may not even be a ship or sub that detected it. I don't think they've said exactly how it was detected.
Okay, so why would they not disclose.
Also how do other subs hunt other subs if they require multiple sources to triangulate?
Wolfpack's? ....
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EXCLUSIVE: Tycoon gave up seats on Titanic sub for father and son
Jay Bloom (pictured with his son Sean) has shared texts between him and OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush showing he was offered a 'last minute price' of $150,000 - $100,000 below the usual price.
So probably the man and son who did go also got a substantial discount.
Soldato
Distance and bearing.
The UK would not disclose either. It's assets may be in the North Atlantic or the Southern Ocean. There is no point in a deterrent when the enemy knows within 500 miles or so where you are for ranging your attack.
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Just casually wiping 100k off the cost like that is a red flag itself.lucky escape
EXCLUSIVE: Tycoon gave up seats on Titanic sub for father and son
Jay Bloom (pictured with his son Sean) has shared texts between him and OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush showing he was offered a 'last minute price' of $150,000 - $100,000 below the usual price.
I suspect because they didn't actually know what it is they heard. Prior to finding the end caps they have no way of knowing if that was Titanic sub they had heard or something else.
No point declassifying information if they don't have to.
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Rush also gave the controller to a "mission specialist" (passenger) once who proceeded to hit the sea floor..... Rush had previously stated certifications are no use when it's the pilot that usually makes the mistake ....
Wow, disregard for safety of the highest order, having major issues with controls, proceed with dive anyway.
My bet is that they've gone through their logs and found the event.
I'm sure an actual submariner will be along shortly to give chapter and verse; I only used to work with them and that was many years ago, so my knowledge is highly imperfect. But briefly a sub will detect a noise along a bearing. And different subs make different noises (acoustic signatures). As the sub moves the noise will shift to different bearings. That will allow you to triangulate a static noise. Where it gets fun is when the source of the noise is also moving. If you can classify the source of the noise (e.g. an Astute class sub) then you can look up things like how fast it can go, what its normal speed is, how deep it can go, and so on to better pinpoint the location. And then there's the 3D aspect. There are other complexities and subtleties but those are beyond my knowledge.