Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.

mrk said:
It was carbon fibre, so unlike other solid materials that collapse/bend etc, CF can literally shatter into pieces leaving no trace behind of an original shape. If they find the Titanium end caps then that will basically confirm the hull itself is nowhere to be found.

Some reports of sharks being seen in the area around the margin time frame too, so if the CF shattered leaving them wounded and exposed, sharks would smell that from miles away and swoop in.

Pretty grim.
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Think more plankton food rather than sharks! But that said there’s no sunlight down there for plankton anyway.
 
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Priapus said:
This explains what would have happened - regardless of the hull being steal or CF I believe:

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One of the posters saying this "Short of hearing a crack, which would cause the event to immediately unfold, no they didn’t. The entire event takes place in less time than you can process something taking place. You’re existing, then you’re dust, literally. They were at the gates and wondering how they got there." Pretty much sums up how quick death would be in this situtaion. The black humour comment at the end sums it up perfectly.
 
Jono8 said:
I wouldnt like to be in the submarine excursion industry right now...
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I think a more appropriate worry bead is "I wouldn't want to be an eccentric billionaire who flaunts rules and regulations and then cries for government help when it all goes wrong".

The amount of "let them down, they're billionaires" is pretty rough but enlightening lol.
 
So the debris field was found where it descended and lost contact. Why did it take almost a week to find it, did they not have the required equipment in place to find it sooner? As you would think that would be the first place they would look.
 
beachBOYken said:
So the debris field was found where it descended and lost contact. Why did it take almost a week to find it, did they not have the required equipment in place to find it sooner? As you would think that would be the first place they would look.
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Because it takes time to move the ROVs capable of surveying that depth into place.
 
mrk said:
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So yeah, if you follow the right paths in regulations, certifications and focus on engineering expertise, you can have a safe diving vehicle with depth-unlimited capabilities anywhere on Earth.
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thanks interesting :
when you look at the certification of that crew sphere, it is little more than Titan itself had undergone from previous dives (except it was depth+20%)
& some of them are tested by immersion in the sea itself, so maybe Titan would have passed from initial dive stresses - inland testing facilities seem to be limited in size -
nonetheless limiting factors R&D+cost only $50M , an f-16 can cost that.
yes - testing of other systems for Titan maybe less stringent
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Hmmh Chinese seem to have the biggest+deepest declared one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striver_(bathyscaphe) 3people 10K - made with some welding ???
Cameron's one was a single seater deepsea challnger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-submergence_vehicle
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Priapus said:
This explains what would have happened - regardless of the hull being steal or CF I believe:

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That's the clearest explanation I've read yet and makes perfect sense now thanks. Now, imagining that scene unfold as a visual person who has to visualise everything from atoms interacting to the average ocuker's momma waddling, I wish to unsee this image as it's quite terrifying!
 
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mcast123 said:
The craziest thing I learned was the trieste sub went down to triple the depth of the titanic :eek:
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Incredible, when you think most of land has been explored but when it comes to the ocean its still a very much unknown place for obvious reasons. Makes it so fascinating and interesting to think what else is down there.
 
MoNkeE said:
I still think the shark thing is coincidence. We can’t keep talking about how they got incinerated in a 4000 degree micro inferno and then crushes to oblivion, then suggest some sharks miles away smelt a steak dinner :p
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Yes, I believe it's a coincidence. Sharks don't go down that far.
 
jpaul said:
thanks interesting :
when you look at the certification of that crew sphere, it is little more than Titan itself had undergone from previous dives (except it was depth+20%)
& some of them are tested by immersion in the sea itself, so maybe Titan would have passed from initial dive stresses - inland testing facilities seem to be limited in size -
nonetheless limiting factors R&D+cost only $50M , an f-16 can cost that.
yes - testing of other systems for Titan maybe less stringent
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Hmmh Chinese seem to have the biggest+deepest declared one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striver_(bathyscaphe) 3people 10K - made with some welding ???
Cameron's one was a single seater deepsea challnger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-submergence_vehicle
]
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Keep in mind the LF's sphere was forged Titanium and got shipped to Russia for pressure testing because nowhere else on the planet was/is capable of testing to this sort of depth +20% - Doesn't matter if it's done in actual water or in a test chamber, the physics involved remain the same. Oceangate didn't go anywhere near such certifications (none at all) because Rush thought it was too woke (for want of a better word).

MoNkeE said:
I still think the shark thing is coincidence. We can’t keep talking about how they got incinerated in a 4000 degree micro inferno and then crushes to oblivion, then suggest some sharks miles away smelt a steak dinner
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Maybe the sharks smelled toast?
 
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I feel Rush was ignorant and too arrogant to listen to others warnings.

Also seems like he was treating it more like a business, seeing as how he bought cheap game controllers, construction pipes as ballast..
 
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Rush also gave the controller to a "mission specialist" (passenger) once who proceeded to hit the sea floor..... Rush had previously stated certifications are no use when it's the pilot that usually makes the mistake ....
 
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FoxEye said:
It's the boss who has ultimate responsibility tho, not the engineers. The boss sets the budget, the design parameters, decides how much focus to place on safety, etc.
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It’s also the engineers. The ones that sign off on the design. Once they work out how it failed they will investigate to see if there was negligent practices by any of them.
 
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