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TitanZ: delayed indefinitely?

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Lol.

ubersonic said:
They would have known well in advance. The 295X2 uses an Asetek cooler based on the design originally used on the ASUS ARES HD7990. Considering the amount of non AMD lips that would have had to stay sealed for Nvidia not to know it's just not feasible.
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Well in advance of designing your own cooler for your own product?

I doubt that, lips may open, but if they open after Nvidia specs have been finalised and on the fabrication process, it's too late.

Reality probably sank in after the all round performance package from the 295 sunk in, I'm putting it down to drivers/performance isn't good enough yet and it will hit shelves when they get it sorted.
 
LtMatt said:
You have to say it, props to AMD if this is true. Stole the thunder of the TitanZ and took a dump on Jen Hsun Huang's face at the same time. Especially when you look back to the TitanZ keynote.

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Quite liked the transforming animation although it was fairly obvious it would be a dual card. :p

Be interested in seeing just what it has to offer, if gibbo has stock of them and probably others also have stock surely it can't be cancelled?
 
They can still cancel it. Just means they'll be rare as rocking horse **** lol.


But in the same way Morris Minors are rare. You'd only own one for the Lols / collection factor :D


I think in all seriousness there will be some adjustments being made. Given the time frame for anything else on the horizon they won't be taking this lying down. Especially considering the 295x isn't the most desirable of packages to begin with lol. It needs to be cheaper, and faster. Two things which would be easy to make happen. Just please not with a god awful AIO cooler.
 
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It can still be cancelled, hell the Su-27 fighter jet was just rolling off the production line when they decided to scrap it and start almost from scratch.

However I doubt they will scrap it as cards have been made, money spent, plus the PR disaster. If they can't release new drivers/BIOS to safely/acoustically get the numbers up my guess is they will probably tank the price and make it a limited run (better to sell at low profit or even a loss than suffer the expense of trying to fix the PR disaster and brand damage). Obvious issue though is that as Titans are more baby compute card than super gaming card they can't drop the price too far without hurting their other compute cards.
 
ubersonic said:
It can still be cancelled, hell the Su-27 fighter jet was just rolling off the production line when they decided to scrap it and start almost from scratch.

However I doubt they will scrap it as cards have been made, money spent, plus the PR disaster. If they can't release new drivers/BIOS to safely/acoustically get the numbers up my guess is they will probably tank the price and make it a limited run (better to sell at low profit or even a loss than suffer the expense of trying to fix the PR disaster and brand damage). Obvious issue though is that as Titans are more baby compute card than super gaming card they can't drop the price too far without hurting their other compute cards.
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They do it the other way round surely? If limited production run with no more stock they will simply re-adjust their PR so it is all aimed at compute and increase the price more so.
 
tommybhoy said:
Meanwhile, back on planet earth, the 295 is for sale and the TitanZ is awol=negative PR.

One company made the wisest of moves to go AIO and receive all the plaudits=positive PR. ;)
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Don't see the problem with the 295 cooler myself, it seems to be the best option given that amd cards are always slated for being loud and hot, was either that or build heatsink so huge you'd need planning permission to install it in your case. :eek:
 
Gibbo said:
They do it the other way round surely? If limited production run with no more stock they will simply re-adjust their PR so it is all aimed at compute and increase the price more so.
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As they have already done the PR for Titan-Z that would make them a laughing stock and is the kind of PR disaster I was theorizing they would want to avoid. It's worth spending or even losing a little money to avoid making yourself look bad especially if it makes your nemesis look good at the same time.
 
tommybhoy said:
Meanwhile, back on planet earth, the 295 is for sale and the TitanZ is awol=negative PR.

One company made the wisest of moves to go AIO and receive all the plaudits=positive PR. ;)
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Gerard said:
Don't see the problem with the 295 cooler myself, it seems to be the best option given that amd cards are always slated for being loud and hot, was either that or build heatsink so huge you'd need planning permission to install it in your case. :eek:
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Agreed its a silent powerful cooling solution that allows you better than 780TI reference performance at quiet operation and running a hell of a lot cooler to boot. Only thing im not keen on is the price. I'd also get a couple of GT 1850's on that Rad as well to bring temps down. They made quite a difference on the last AIO i used on my 7970.
 
spoffle said:
Have nVidia EVER undercut? I don't think they have, and I can't see them doing it now personally.
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Not at all price points but normally big green does have one product in it's stack that mean AMD doesn't get all it's own way in terms of value. The GTX460 is a perfect example, while the 470 and 480 were vastly overpriced and hot, the GTX460 came long at the 5830 prices was faster then the 5830 and 5850 right on the heels of the more expensive 5870. Come to think about it the GTX460 was probably Nvidia's best gaming card it's had in the last 4 years.
 
Freddie1980 said:
Come to think about it the GTX460 was probably Nvidia's best gaming card it's had in the last 4 years.
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Was certainly epic value compared to todays cards.

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That card was quicker out of the box than a reference GTX470 too.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Thought Nvidia were just waiting for the latest drivers to be ready before launching the card?

The hardware is already finished and obviously with the retailers, can't see it being canceled. The naysayers are getting to excited over this :p
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so here is how i see it.
nvidia need few thing starting with :
1-claim back fastest single card title ( wont be easy at all, if they fail thats a probleme, so canceling it is still wiser imo)
2-avoid watercooling, to not be perceived as copying of AMD ( not being able to keep frequency stable, temp and noise in check, with ppl focusing on these issues, most titanz sites will warm up the cards before benching unless bribed i guess xD)
3-adjust the price to avoid the counter AMD PR with the hashtag #2betterthan1, so the price need to drop far enough to make it difficult for AMD to hold the Ratio 1/2 to avoid the AMD counter PR on Titan Z launch.

honestly i think canceling it would be wiser, live to fight another day, wouldn't feel as bad as if they launch it and fails against the 295.
 
AlamoX said:
2-avoid watercooling, to not be perceived as copying of AMD
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The 295x2 cooler was designed/manufactured by Asetek originally for use on the ASUS ARES HD7990, it's a doubled up version of the one Asetek made for use on PNY's AIO cooled GTX580 and GTX680 cards, all AMD did was call Asetek and ask them to make a cheaper version of the ARES one with a smaller rad, Nvidia could easily call them too.
 
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