They aren't my stats, they are the official stats:
And that's also with an increasing population.
Todays London Stabbing/Shooting
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And that's also with an increasing population.
Caporegime
Agreed. However, the fact remains that firearms kill more people in the USA than knives, and you can't kill people as quickly and efficiently with a knife as you can with a firearm.
Name six Democrats who have publicly stated that they want to ban all guns. I'll wait.
Caporegime
Lol at the London haters.
But they are the most spectacular. They are also, next to domestic violence, probabally the biggest risk of a Gunshot death that the white middle classes face.
So even though it is actually a very low risk indeed, it is something that they worry about.
Violent crime is typically something that White America only sees on TV. so when something like a school shooting that actually effects them happens, it affects them badly.
By contrast, the majority of violent crime in the US is typically committed by Black people, in Black neighborhoods, against other Black people.
Homicides split much the same way and if you want to look specifically at firearm related homicide. Black people shooting other Black people accounts for some 2/3 of the total homicides where a firearm has been used.
And even then these figures overstate the incidence and risk of violent crime that White America faces since in official stats, Hispanics are often treated as being "White".
There will be plenty of all White counties in the Trumptastic flyover states that will not have seen a non-domestic homicide in decades. Despite being solidly Gun-Owning communities
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People in the UK/Europe cannot really comprehend just how stark the differences in life experience are in different parts of the USA. It is like comparing the Cotswolds with the Ukraine!
(PS to add, Did I get Effects and Affects the wrong way round? I have been bothering about this. If the Grammerobergruppenfuhrer currently on duty can tell me, I would be grateful!
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Soldato
The rest, as they say, is silence.
Official stats can be very misleading.
AIUI, and I may well be wrong, (Please advise)
USA-Man found in gutter with bullet hole in head=Homicide
UK-Man found in gutter with bullet hole in head=Unexplained death (Only Homicide if somebody can be found to have been responsible for committing it)
Even if this difference in official reporting is only a little bit true.
The implications in the significance for the "Official statistics" are likley to be staggering.
So where are your stats?
Or don't we need facts and experts?
I also think you'll find the opposite. UK reporting of crime is a lot stricter. It is why we supposedly have so much violent crime, as nearly everything gets classed as violent.
Soldato
UK knife crime is firstly overblown by the media. Secondly it is mainly a sub section of London scum stabbing each other.
USA also has a subsection shooting each other BUT has a serious issue with mass shootings, often in schools involving innocents.
It’s really not comparable.
They put a few on stabbing duty to keep the population down
But yea, almost all of it is contained within certain "cultures". But pointing it out isn't P.C, so everyone has to worry about being stabbed.
Soldato
Evidence please. Your understanding does not have equal billing to statistical evidence until you produce actual evidence.
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They put a few on stabbing duty to keep the population down
But yea, almost all of it is contained within certain "cultures". But pointing it out isn't P.C, so everyone has to worry about being stabbed.
There's nothing un-PC about pointing out that majority of the stabbings are related to gang culture
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That graph is an overall murder rate. The trouble with that graph is it could mean that domestic related murders have dropped and knife murders have increased or vice versa.
There is also the fact that medical expertise has progressed so far that many people who would have died 30 years ago can now survive horrific attacks.
Year figures can also be iffy, such as in 2006 where the London bombing victims were all classes as separate murders.
There has also been a dramatic change in the age profile of both the killers and the killed.
An awful lot of the the assailants and their victims are teenagers, and as i said elsewhere. Sure teenage gangs would rumble in the 50's and 60's, but for the most part they were actually very careful indeed not to actually kill each other.
The prospect of having Breakfast with Albert Pierrepoint if they did was undoubtedly a major factor in this, whatever people say today!
Soldato
Teenage gangs in London in the 50s and 60s behaved themselves for the most part lest they upset one of the much more violent adult gangs of the era like the Krays, the Richardsons or the Met.
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But they are the most spectacular. They are also, next to domestic violence, probabally the biggest risk of a Gunshot death that the white middle classes face.
So even though it is actually a very low risk indeed, it is something that they worry about.
Violent crime is typically something that White America only sees on TV. so when something like a school shooting that actually effects them happens, it affects them badly.
(PS to add, Did I get Effects and Affects the wrong way round? I have been bothering about this. If the Grammerobergruppenfuhrer currently on duty can tell me, I would be grateful!
I believe you do have it wrong. The AFFECT of pulling the trigger was a loud discharge.The bullet hit someone and they were traumatically EFFECTED. I'm 80% sure that's right.... Hmmm...
Noun and verb - usually.
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Soldato
Caporegime
Absolutely horrific. Shocked me to the core. How can anyone do this to another person for no reason? Where is the humanity?
Time for absolute zero tolerance on carrying knives. I wouldn’t be opposed to five years in prison for being in possession of one,
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Where is the humanity? As if murdering isn’t a perhaps one of the most human things we have through out history, this is just airbrushing uncomfortable truths. /sorry edge lord moment
Regardless are you willing to increase your taxes then? Or shall it be platitudes until you inevitably vote tories in a low tax poor service basis while expecting otherwise? /agape_pikachu_face.jpg
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