Today's mass shooting in the US

mcast said:
Do you or someone close live there? If not, mass shooting news is just morbid entertainment, the more guns the merrier.
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No.

dowie said:
Well because if there is another shooting then a good guy with a gun can then shoot the shooter and stop the shooter from shooting others, or multiple good guys with guns can shoot the shooter(s)...
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I know the theory behind it but will it really work that way.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
Even if Washington managed to repeal the Second Amendment, how would the US Government go about collecting up all the previously legally held guns in the USA?
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they wouldn't, and given the gun culture it wouldn't work.

a better way of doing it is to repeat for magazine fed semi-automatics what they did for machine guns, let attrition take care of the rest, no need to repeal the second amendment either, given the established precedent.

it'd be a slow change, but the key thing is it would at least be a change, and the enthusiasts could keep their collections.
 
robgmun said:
Works pretty well in the UK. We had several mass shootings in the UK until they were banned after Dunblane. When was the last mass shooting in the UK? Of course, we now have a knife problem instead.
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The current knife problem and our old mass shooting problem are in no way linked though. Just in the same way Americas gang violence isn't linked with their mass shootings. Unless you mean the terrorist bridge attack? Then yeah, that was carried out using knives, but how worse would it have been if all 3 of them had Ak47s and drum magazines?
 
dowie said:
Well because if there is another shooting then a good guy with a gun can then shoot the shooter and stop the shooter from shooting others, or multiple good guys with guns can shoot the shooter(s)...
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Which has so far not happened. Even in places like Texas where everyone has guns anyway :D

Terminal_Boy said:
Even if Washington managed to repeal the Second Amendment, how would the US Government go about collecting up all the previously legally held guns in the USA?
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Nothing says they have to allow ammo. The right to bear arms doesn't even specify guns. It's purely the gun lobby keeping it going.
 
Werewolf said:
iIRC it did in a couple of instances, a church and a mall (security guard in uniform from memory).
The police nearly shot one, and did shoot the other (or was it killed one, and shot the other?).
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Police and security guards (in the US at least) are a bit different. It's their job to watch out for this stuff.
 
robgmun said:
Works pretty well in the UK. We had several mass shootings in the UK until they were banned after Dunblane. When was the last mass shooting in the UK? Of course, we now have a knife problem instead.
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The UK is also an island and isnt neighboured by some of the most violent third world nations on earth. Isnt UK gun crime at its highest rate for over a decade as well? Our knife crime is basically the mirror image of the inner city US gun violence.

MissChief said:
It should be noted that some parts of the UK have a knife problem, not all.
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In the same way some parts of the US (ironically the cities with the toughest gun laws) are responsible for a huge amount of the gun related homicides.
 
Mark A said:
The current knife problem and our old mass shooting problem are in no way linked though. Just in the same way Americas gang violence isn't linked with their mass shootings. Unless you mean the terrorist bridge attack? Then yeah, that was carried out using knives, but how worse would it have been if all 3 of them had Ak47s and drum magazines?
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Well yes, that was my point...
 
Nasher said:
Nothing says they have to allow ammo. The right to bear arms doesn't even specify guns. It's purely the gun lobby keeping it going.
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Looks like Walmart heard you :p

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49572760

Walmart changes gun policies after shootings

Walmart is to stop sales of some types of ammunition following recent shootings, including one at one of its stores in Texas that left 22 dead.

The head of the company said it would discontinue sales of some bullets that can be used in assault-style weapons, and those used in handguns.
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Also, even more surprising

The firm asked customers at Walmart and its Sam's Club stores to stop carrying firearms openly, even in states where it is legally permitted, saying such actions have caused fear and evacuations.

Mr McMillon said: "We know these decisions will inconvenience some of our customers, and we hope they will understand."

Another major US retailer joined Walmart on Tuesday. Kroger changed its policy by "respectfully asking" customers to stop openly carrying guns in stores where state laws allow it.

Jessica Adelman, group vice-president of corporate affairs, said in a statement that only authorised law enforcement officers should be carrying weapons in Kroger outlets.
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