Today's mass shooting in the US

horrific, seen a 2 minute clip on twitter. Wish I hadn’t.

I did not expect people to go down drop dead like in the movies, the First Lady just dropped dead. The guy has zero reaction, sees these people as sub human.

Right wing ideology is just as bad as isis ideology but for some reason we aren’t seeing any push back against it. Quite the opposite in fact where it seems most conservatives circles it is being promoted. This guys ideology isn’t nothing different then what you see on Fox News.

Its basically Tucker Carlson in his manifesto. The white man is being replaced and what are you all going to do about it?

Here is what this guy decided to do, more will follow.
 
Should have mental health checks for gun ownership, this guy was clearly a loon… but they won’t, because ‘murica/2nd Amendment etc..
 
Bit worrying in a way that he survived - these things often encourage copycats especially as he survived due to wearing body armour - some other nutcases might think they can do the same thing.

There are those that will be happy to murder based on skin colour and throw their life away, although they will likely feel its anything but throwing it away, its a war for their culture and race and war needs sacrifice. Still, he is 18 years old, to be so full of hate at that age, wtf :(
 
You say that like Americans need an excuse. They don't. Just look at all of the damn shootings over there. Look at the reasons/causes. All too many times they just don't have a cause.

True, look at that vegas shooter, still no motive for that, some people just dont like other people I guess. I mean, I despise humanity but even I draw the line at murdering my fellow innocent primates.
 
horrific, seen a 2 minute clip on twitter. Wish I hadn’t.

I did not expect people to go down drop dead like in the movies, the First Lady just dropped dead. The guy has zero reaction, sees these people as sub human.

Right wing ideology is just as bad as isis ideology but for some reason we aren’t seeing any push back against it. Quite the opposite in fact where it seems most conservatives circles it is being promoted. This guys ideology isn’t nothing different then what you see on Fox News.

Good grief, and she's just back from Ukraine... People here seem more concerned with American violence than our home grown, which is odd to me.
 
Good grief, and she's just back from Ukraine... People here seem more concerned with American violence than our home grown, which is odd to me.

That’s iOS auto correct for you :)

I don’t think that is true, I have a hunch if we were having random mass murders on a daily basis the chatter would be far more than the occasional bump in this thread.
 
That’s iOS auto correct for you :)

I don’t think that is true, I have a hunch if we were having random mass murders on a daily basis the chatter would be far more than the occasional bump in this thread.


Give it time, sadly we tend to follow America's dark side. But the obsession is real. How many posts are placed in here regarding atrocities in, for example, Brazil, India or Mexico? How many comments grasp the nettle and ask why is there this inter racial and caste hatred, can it be addressed or is it endemic in the human psyche?
 
Should have mental health checks for gun ownership, this guy was clearly a loon… but they won’t, because ‘murica/2nd Amendment etc..
I support gun ownership and 2A but I agree there should be mental health assessments / checks on MH history. The difficult part is not making it political, e.g. the doctor doesn’t like guns so won’t give sign off (I understand that’s an issue in the UK).
 
Its basically Tucker Carlson in his manifesto. The white man is being replaced and what are you all going to do about it?

Here is what this guy decided to do, more will follow.
There's all sorts out of outrage, quite rightly, when Muslim clerics are allowed to preach hate at mosques.

Not so much when it's a lunatic with bad hair if he happens to be white and on Fox or the POTUS.
 
There's all sorts out of outrage, quite rightly, when Muslim clerics are allowed to preach hate at mosques.

Not so much when it's a lunatic with bad hair if he happens to be white and on Fox or the POTUS.

That's rather "tonsorialist". Give it time, the trains from Speaker's Corner are Sunday service limited. There will be some more forum friction tomorrow :(
 
Give it time, sadly we tend to follow America's dark side. But the obsession is real. How many posts are placed in here regarding atrocities in, for example, Brazil, India or Mexico? How many comments grasp the nettle and ask why is there this inter racial and caste hatred, can it be addressed or is it endemic in the human psyche?

I don’t know but that is a different argument to the one I responded to.
 
"I love you people madly, but I’d love you more if you went forward and just went berserk on the skulls of the Democrats and the marxists and the communists...." at the Trump rally yesterday. Is it any wonder that political violence is a problem? Rhetoric like this is just adding fuel to the fire, eventually the pressure will release in lots of bloodshed.

 
Lol at the mental checks.

It's the same as Isis, Islamic extremists they aren't deranged nor are these white supremacists.

It's a sick ideology that needs to be countered.
 
Yeah okay...

The evangelical right could be argued to have a lot in common with ISIS. They both want a theocracy where their religious beliefs are imposed on everyone by the state. Anyone breaking "God's law" should be criminally punished. Same sex marriage and just being gay would be illegal. Abortion and contraception would be illegal. They might not be as brutal but the basics are the same.
 
The evangelical right could be argued to have a lot in common with ISIS. They both want a theocracy where their religious beliefs are imposed on everyone by the state. Anyone breaking "God's law" should be criminally punished. Same sex marriage and just being gay would be illegal. Abortion and contraception would be illegal. They might not be as brutal but the basics are the same.

There's no argument that they have the same intention, but yes, the punishment is less overt, if not less brutal, when looking at the fundamental element of christianity.
 
I think the ISIS comparisons are kinda like comparing the behavior of Russian troops in Ukraine with say rather more isolated bad incidents of British troops in Northern Ireland or US troops in Afghanistan, it's rather superficial and at a completely different scale. I mean the baseline/regular beliefs in countries where ISIS became popular are pretty ****ed up by western standards let alone the extremist ones!

As for mainstream media like Fox news etc.. that would be like blaming CNN for the black guy who decided to drive his truck at a load of white people, this guy was influenced by more than Tucker Carlson - rather it was the worst of 4Chan, /pol/ etc. he apparently blames Jews for non-white immigration or something - that's not the sort of thing you'd get from US evening news etc..
 
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