Today's mass shooting in the US

tang0 · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:24

Not verified that that is the guy yet, initial rumours pointed to another guy with same name. But since you’ve made it political...

VincentHanna · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:28

You really are Mr Fake news aren't you?

https://www.mediaite.com/online/sto...-shooter-hes-a-tea-partier-no-hes-a-democrat/

the most egregious finger-pointing came this morning when ABC’s Brian Ross falsely reported that alleged shooter James Holmes could’ve been a Tea Party member simply because one of many James Holmes’ in the Denver metro area happened to be active on an internet Tea Party forum. As the report gathered steam (and controversy), conservatives rightfully expressed disgust with the speculative finger-pointing that included no verification whether this was the correct James Holmes.

Of course, ABC realized the error and issued an apology on behalf of the company and Ross: “That report was incorrect. ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted.”

But that apology came not before conservative blog Breitbart.com lept to make a similarly unverified claim that Holmes was, gasp… a registered Democrat. This speculation was based on the fact that one of the many Denver-area James Holmes’ had registered to vote using a California-issued Social Security number (the alleged shooter was from San Diego).

It turns out this report was also false. Breitbart later updated the story to say that perhaps the shooter Holmes was not registered to vote at all. But the tit-for-tat was already done: Breitbart.com rightfully attacked ABC for falsely reporting the suspect was a Tea Partier, but then falsely reported the suspect was a Democrat.

Woden · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:30

None of this would have happened if it was mandatory for all students to carry a handgun.

Craterloads · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:35

tang0 said:
Not verified that that is the guy yet, initial rumours pointed to another guy with same name. But since you’ve made it political...

I dont understand tango why this guy is in your image stating democrats

Look hes actually wearing a MAGA hat. Its really hard to miss, i posted it again for you.

And dylann roof

https://www.thenation.com/article/t...between-dylann-roof-and-the-republican-party/

News that Earl Holt, president of the white-supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens, has donated $65,000 to Republicans, including Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Rick Santorum, has ricocheted around the media since The Guardian broke it last night. No wonder: It reveals a mere two degrees of separation between the racist murderer Dylann Roof, who says the CCC helped inspire him, and the GOP.

tang0 · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:35

ABC also issued an online apology: "ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted." And Ross said on-air: "An earlier report that I had was incorrect that he was connected with the Tea Party in fact that’s a different Jim Holmes. He was not connected to the Tea Party and what we do know about him is he is a 24-year-old white male who went to Colorado for a Ph.D."

So what are you getting at? Two news outlets posted fake news?

VincentHanna · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:39

tang0 said:
ABC also issued an online apology: "ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted." And Ross said on-air: "An earlier report that I had was incorrect that he was connected with the Tea Party in fact that’s a different Jim Holmes. He was not connected to the Tea Party and what we do know about him is he is a 24-year-old white male who went to Colorado for a Ph.D."

Yes I know, I put that in the quote above. Do you not even read? Clearly not

I'm telling you there's no evidence to support your stupid picture that James Holmes had any political affiliation, and provided both sides of the story for balance.

mid_gen · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:41

20 odd children have been murdered but the argument is over the killer was Democrat or Republican?

You lot are deranged.

Sankari · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:43

tang0 said:
Not verified that that is the guy yet, initial rumours pointed to another guy with same name.

It has been verified.

But since you’ve made it political...

Fake news.

* Dylann Roof is not a Democrat; he's a conservative, pro-Confederate, anti-Semite, anti-black, racist bigot (source)
* James Holmes is not a Democrat; he's a registered independent (source)

I don't know who those other two guys are, but if you give me their names I wouldn't be surprised to find they can be struck off the list as well.

You never bother to check the facts, do you?

VincentHanna · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:43

I don't care what political affiliation he was. He was a mentally unhinged 19 year old who bought loads of guns and killed people.

But I do care about the obvious spread of fake news. People should be bought to task when they attempt to spread it.

tang0 · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:44

I didn’t want to bring it up, I already said this stuff happens on both sides. Initial rumours had a guy who’s a Trump supporter, then it was someone else who’s a democrat. We don’t know who it is yet, and this should be the end of it

MikeTheNative · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:45

Woden said:
None of this would have happened if it was mandatory for all students to carry a handgun.

That's ridiculous, they clearly need LMGs

Yas786 · 15 Feb 2018 at 11:55

MikeTheNative said:
That's ridiculous, they clearly need LMGs

Better still give them rocket launchers.

Yas786 · 15 Feb 2018 at 12:00

VincentHanna said:
I don't care what political affiliation he was. He was a mentally unhinged 19 year old who bought loads of guns and killed people.

But I do care about the obvious spread of fake news. People should be bought to task when they attempt to spread it.

Which is down to Trump and his administration for taking away the law that asks for specific background checks on certain people. Which includes people that have a history of mental illness.

But you know just tweet prayers and condolences and all will be ok.

TacticalFish · 15 Feb 2018 at 12:01

Yas786 said:
Better still give them rocket launchers.

Pfft, stop talking rubbish. They need to be armed with a Fat Man, ideally with a MIRV launcher mod.

Yas786 · 15 Feb 2018 at 12:03

TacticalFish said:
Pfft, stop talking rubbish. They need to be armed with a Fat Man, ideally with a MIRV launcher mod.

Why not just go the whole hog and give them tanks

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Flibster · 15 Feb 2018 at 12:03

Screeeech said:
America is so backward,

On CNN they just played real video footage from inside the classroom (of kids being gunned down), with the gunshots, everything, (albeit some of it blurred) but they bleeped out the swear words,

It's like - hours old video footage of children been blown away = acceptable to broadcast
Some swearing = unacceptable to broadcast

It's a backward, weird, broken place.

Yup. Remember the outrage when Timberlake 'accidentally' revealed one of Janet Jacksons boobs?

I still say they're not a christian country like they claim, but a puritanical one.

TacticalFish · 15 Feb 2018 at 12:05

Yas786 said:
Why not just go the whole hog and give them tanks.

Now we're talking, I think power armour would be more practical though.

hornetstinger · 15 Feb 2018 at 12:08

Or if you have a gun and shoot everyone then no-one would be able to shoot you.

ubersonic · 15 Feb 2018 at 12:09

TacticalFish said:
Now we're talking, I think power armour would be more practical though.

Nah, Terminator armour with chainfists.

FTM · 15 Feb 2018 at 12:15

“In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate,” Dan Hodges, a British journalist, wrote in a post on Twitter two years ago, referring to the 2012 attack that killed 20 young students at an elementary school in Connecticut. “Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.”