Also, it's worth noting that Republicans have a pretty poor track record of supporting legislation aimed at helping people with mental health problems.
Today's mass shooting in the US
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Also, it's worth noting that Republicans have a pretty poor track record of supporting legislation aimed at helping people with mental health problems.
The police reported they've found a manifesto.
Oh and apparently they were a gun control activist, or they were back in 2018..
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The guns are definitely the enabling factor.
It feels to me that there is something cultural behind America's mass shootings. Other countries have high gun ownership, but don't see similar rates of mass shooting.
America has a mixture of problems with mental health, too many easily accessible guns etc
Whether she was mentally ill is another issue, but with all the "touchiness" about offending a trans person the diagnosis would be rare.
Gender dysphoria and mental illness go hand in hand, if I recall there was another shooting like this a few months ago.
Don't they give testosterone and roids to women wanting to become men, wonder how that would affect them.
Of course American gun control is part of the whole issue too, amazing how often these things happen there..
Gender dysphoria and mental illness go hand in hand, if I recall there was another shooting like this a few months ago.
Don't they give testosterone and roids to women wanting to become men, wonder how that would affect them.
Of course American gun control is part of the whole issue too, amazing how often these things happen there..
To be fair, there are many countries with large numbers of guns and mental health problems, but zero school shootings.
I think guns are a problem in the US, but I don't think they're the root cause behind school shootings and grievance killings, it's almost an entirely American phenomenon.
I think it's way more complicated and nuanced than simply saying "it's the guns". I think the problems are deeply rooted in American culture and how their society has evolved over the years, they've become more and more reactive, extreme and intense as the years have gone by.
Combine that, with a culture that prioritises money and "having the most stuff" over everything else, with people who can't get access to free health care or counseling, and I think you can get close to starting to understand the problems the US has.
That'll help with motive.
The irony!
Meanwhile, conservative talking points are as dumb as you'd expect:
In one breath we are told 'there should be no gun free zones', while in another we are told 'schools should have metal detectors to check for guns.'
Of course, we also get the perennial favourite, 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people.' Yeah, and they find it easiest to do that with guns.
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trouble is the US "freedom to bear arms" was from a different era in time completely, it is a totally different world now.
the people who came up with that did not know that so many people would abuse that to murder children in schools.
if they knew that then even they would say to scrap the idea.
the people who came up with that did not know that so many people would abuse that to murder children in schools.
if they knew that then even they would say to scrap the idea.
America is the only country in the world with more guns than people in Civilian ownership. It has twice the ownership of Falklands, the next highest, which is a country that I'd consider an exception of its own. The next really comparable country is Canada which has a third as many guns.
America really is an exception when it comes to the sheer number of guns, and in the easy availability of weapons like the AR-15.
I am being hyperbolic; I was deliberately simplifying in response to the overstatement made in the post I was replying to. Almost nothing in the real world boils down to a single, simple, reason or, as Ben Goldacre puts it: I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that. That said: dealing with America's massive gun problem would be the single easiest and most effective step in solving the problem. As we saw with Australia's response to a rash of mass shootings, getting rid of guns works.
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Thank you for the correction, I have modified my post. The information I had read mislead me into thinking it was a trans-woman not a trans-man.
Came here to say the exact same thing. Yes, a ban on Guns would help, but the core issue here is mental illness. Instead of injecting people full of hormones, unbalancing their body in an extreme way and exacerbating their illness, maybe they need therapy instead.
It's a bit of a pointless argument though, yes - if we got rid of all of the guns from the US, yes the gun problem would be solved (of course) but you're never ever going to remove guns from the US population.
And even if you did get rid of guns, you're not solving the problem - there's something rooted in American society which is driving people to want to commit these acts in the first place, you need to understand that before you can propose a solution.
I don't know what it is? do you?
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What about all the school shootings that weren't done by a trans person?
You know, the other 99.9% of them.
Why not? Other countries have successfully removed guns from the population. This strikes me as simple defeatism. Even modest steps like taking assault rifles out of civilian hands would help a lot.
The problem we're trying to solve is kids getting massacred in schools. That problem is solved by getting rid of guns.
The other issue is the level of glorification that these event gets. You had people late at night waiting to jump on this till they realised the perp was on the wrong end of political spectrum
Let’s not forgot the leaderboard they use to roll out when these events happened
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