Today's mass shooting in the US
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Also a BLM supporter and vegan
Some people are just very strange.
Absolutely
Soldato
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******* vegans! Always them.
Caporegime
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In hindsight your comment looks pretty stupid.
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There is a series of social media photos of him dressed as a woman which are being used to push the "he was Trans" message but I haven't seen anything else, either from the suspect, lawyers or Police to confirm anything regarding whether he was actively Trans or was simply a cross-dresser.
However, to possibly quash the potential Trans claim (or at least say he was into cross-dressing instead), in an interview his Gran claimed he was a gay man who sometimes cross-dressed but hadn't said anything about undergoing any trans surgery/treatment, and several neighbours have also been interviewed and said they regularly saw him dressed as a woman as reported below -
Gran - "(He) was gay and would sometimes dress in women’s clothing, but had not undergone gender transition surgery or treatment."
Philadelphia shooting suspect Kimbrady Carriker’s grandmother says he was ‘hurting’
Exclusive: ‘He had to have been hurting himself in order to do what he did. But what tipped it off?’ the grandmother of alleged Philadelphia mass shooter Kimbrady Carriker tells The Independent‘s Bevan Hurley. ‘What would make a person do such a thing?’
www.independent.co.uk
Neighbours - “We thought he was gay. We never saw him with anyone. We saw him dressed as a woman. That’s his thing. I have no problems with that.”
Exclusive | Philadelphia mass shooting suspect Kimbrady Carriker was ‘weird’ and dressed as woman for years: neighbors
Kimbrady Carriker, 40, has since been hit with a slew of murder and other charges after allegedly opening fire with AR-15 style rifle in Monday night.
nypost.com
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There are multiple photos of him cross-dressing on different occasions. There's also a post of Wesley snipes playing a drag queen which he has labelled "me at pride".
Loads of BLM and ACAB posts. Then randomly support for Trump!
It is funny seeing the articles on different sites and the focus they take.
Some focus on the guns and Trump support. The hindustan times focuses on the BLM bits. Daily Mail the cross dressing.
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Cross dressing doesn't make somebody "Transgender"
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Sorry, could you state where I said it did?
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I was just clarifying the point, for robgmun's benefit.
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Soldato
That is the dumbest comparison I have seen. Pathetic.
Not dumb at all if people's real justifications are the preservation of life.
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Am I missing something here? Does all this trans, gay, straight, right wing left wing BS deflect attention from the fact that he used an AR-15 or similar? Isn't that what we should really be discussing? I say we, I mean those in the US?
Sure, you can discuss that he used an ar 15 amongst others and that it looks like he obtained the weapons used illegally if you wish. Where would you like to start?
Soldato
I don't think shooting people is very vegan xD
well neither is a black person shooting and killing other black people but when have blm ever cared about that
Caporegime
well neither is a black person shooting and killing other black people but when have blm ever cared about that
Oof! Hard truths.
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Well I did say those in the US, and as I have zero intention of ever moving there, I'll leave it to them.
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I think the discussion should be around handguns, which are used in 59% of all gun deaths in the US vs just 3% for rifles like the AR-15 (1). When it comes specifically to "mass shootings" (4 or more people shot in one incident, even if none die) again its handguns at 77% usage (2) whose deaths far exceed the AR-15, although I know the definition of mass shooting changes almost daily to make the AR-15 numbers look far higher than they are.
Just this 4th July weekend there were 15 killed and 94 wounded by gunfire (3) across the US (including those involved in the OP's event) with just 5 killed and 2 wounded by AR-15's (all from the OP's event) but outside of that single event all the rest were killed/wounded by handgun calibre weapons (handguns, PCC's etc (4), so why isn't that all over the news with people screaming for these to be banned if "saving lives" is why people want the AR-15 series banned? Is it because of the "shock" value people get from these "high peak number but low volume" deaths over the far more deadly handguns who have "low peak number but high volume" deaths?
It's also important to talk about who is shooting who in these mass shootings, which tends to be overwhelmingly criminal vs criminal but sadly ends up including bystanders, but again its depends on the ever changing definition of mass shooting i.e. if you ignore "none rifle" events then it absolutely makes the AR-15 series appear far more wide spread than they in reality, but that drops into semantics vs bias I suppose.
References
(1)
What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.
More Americans died of gun-related injuries in 2021 than in any other year on record, according to the latest available statistics from the CDC.
www.pewresearch.org
(2)
Public Mass Shootings: Database Amasses Details of a Half Century of U.S. Mass Shootings with Firearms, Generating Psychosocial Histories
Persons who committed public mass shootings in the U.S. over the last half century were commonly troubled by personal trauma before their shooting incidents, nearly always in a state of crisis at the time, and, in most cases, engaged in leaking their plans before opening fire. Most were insiders...
nij.ojp.gov
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Fourth of July overshadowed by 16 mass shootings across US
Fifteen people were killed and 94 injured across 13 states as well as Washington DC
www.theguardian.com
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Mass Shootings in 2024 | Gun Violence Archive
Gun Violence Archive (GVA) is a not for profit corporation formed in 2013 to provide free online public access to accurate information about gun-related violence in the United States. GVA will collect and check for accuracy, comprehensive information about gun-related violence in the U.S. and...
www.gunviolencearchive.org