Things can change almost overnight - especially when people are complacent. Get the wrong person in power and people reticent to do anything and that representative democracy can change fast.
Today's mass shooting in the US
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Things can change almost overnight - especially when people are complacent. Get the wrong person in power and people reticent to do anything and that representative democracy can change fast.
I think it implies a little common sense should be used - militias/reserve forces in a country with an established military generally are designed to be able to supplement or integrate with regular armed forces and not as heavily armed/equipped.
In terms of fighting a tyrannical government - ignoring how few are actually in any condition, etc. to do so people for some reason always underestimate the numbers game and attrition even assuming the regular forces are 100% on the side of the government the only thing that really swings the balances are WMDs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41907943
One thing I wasn't wrong about - in just about any other country he wouldn't have got near a firearm legally.
One thing I wasn't wrong about - in just about any other country he wouldn't have got near a firearm legally.
True but at the same time looking at countries elsewhere that have high civilian ownership of firearms, etc. but make it harder for people with histories of mental illness, etc. from acquiring firearms legally and better firearm regulation in general have far lower instances of events like these - a few relatively small changes would likely see a reduction of firearms incidents by somewhere around 75%.
Problem is there is a lot of bureaucracy over what appears on a check and no need for some things to be declared as per one of the previous incidents where he had a military record that should have stopped him buying guns but due to some silly complications it wouldn't appear on a normal background check for buying guns.
I'm pretty pro-gun but there is very little reason (aside from some who live in areas with dangerous wild animals, etc.) for most people to own weapons that are anything other than straight pull/bolt action let alone semi-automatic or automatic. Which makes a big difference in a shooting incident as it dramatically reduces how many rounds you can get out before people start reacting, etc.
The amount of ammo out there in the US is ridiculous (probably close to 100 billion rounds in civilian storage) - there are many who've stockpiled crazy amounts in case of changes in the law, etc. in regard to the supply of ammo.
Couple of recordings out there from at the time of the shooting inside classrooms - perpetrator was definitely going at it - can't imaging there won't be fatalities.
(Nothing gory in the videos just sounds of gunshots but the sites are a bit dodgy).
(Nothing gory in the videos just sounds of gunshots but the sites are a bit dodgy).
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Yeah - one of the gun YouTube channels I follow were talking about it - one of the regulars on the channel had bought some 10s of thousands of rounds due to the whole thing about Obama.
On another note some saying this was a targetted shooting i.e. at specific staff rather than just an indiscriminate spree so maybe fatalities will be low hopefully (though none would be better) remains to be seen.
Despite the sometimes perception Russia actually has reasonably strict gun laws.
Even in this country now (not sure how wide spread) they drill for terrorism/active dangerous person on the school grounds. At least they do at the various schools where family have their kids.
Its sad it has come to that.
Personally though I think companies, etc. don't do enough preparation for eventualities - where I work does major incident drills every 6 months (focus on fire, flood and terrorism) but a lot of places don't.
Guns are actually relatively available in this country - we don't tend to have incidents like in the US because for the most part its actually properly regulated in this country (personally I think a little too much so but not by much) and in most cases you'll quickly lose your FAC and weapons if there is good reason.
IIRC there is over half a million firearm owners in the UK with an average of 2.5 guns each.
For the most part, when properly regulated, it is no different to anything else - many people enjoy cars capable of stupidly fast speeds without managing to kill anyone but occasionally you get someone act out in anger with a car.
You can still take a lot of measures with someone with a mentally ill child, etc. in the house requiring them to keep most weapons elsewhere and strict control of any kept inside the house, etc. you can't completely stop it but in several past cases they've simply collected the guns and ammo while their parents are out with no hindrance and gone on a shooting spree.
The M4 carbine (though not a variant generally owned) isn't bad for personal defence assuming you want to lug around something that size. While I'm not a fan I can see why people like the looks of the gun especially when carbonised/skeletonised blinged out. They are also pretty light for what they are.
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What are you saying?
Many people's interest in owning weapons is purely about the look (not necessarily blinged) and/or history of a weapon - lumping them in with people who'd carry out acts like this or saying their opinion is invalid because of it is incredibly closed minded.