Today's mass shooting in the US

muon said:
Lot's of things children shouldn't be using. You don't explicitly lock them away from it.
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You absolutley do, medicine, bleach, ******* tide pods.

All come with child safe containers and all say store out of reach of children.

Parenting 101 is surely "hide the sharp and poisonous stuff"
 
muon said:
Lot's of things children shouldn't be using. You don't explicitly lock them away from it.
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You do if the item is inherently dangerous to a child. or others if a child gets hold of it.

I wouldn't leave modelling knives around children, yet every year there are cases of toddlers shooting each other/their family with a gun that mummy or daddy was too stupid to keep out of reach of ta small child.

I put "child locks" on my cupboards where I store cleaning materials when my niece was starting to crawl around, and she's only in the house for a few hours a week, not living here.


America, the land where kinder eggs are banned due to small objects that could hurt a child if swallowed, yet nothing is allowed to be done about requiring guns be kept out of the reach of those same kids, because apparently requiring adults keep their guns safe is against the constitution.
 
Tefal said:
You absolutley do, medicine, bleach, ******* tide pods.

All come with child safe containers and all say store out of reach of children.

Parenting 101 is surely "hide the sharp and poisonous stuff"
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Really 12 year olds? I reckon they could also steal anything in a household they live in no matter how secure.

This excuse is a convenient way of shifting responsibility from the state to the "irresponsible" and used by the gun lobby. In facts they would say those 12 year olds should have been trained to use guns and "respect" their use, which in this case would probably have resulted in a dead teacher.

If they need to be locked away from 12 year olds because it can result in deaths, then the problem is the public availability of guns in general.

Also the whole purpose of a gun for self defence is surely such that it doesn't take 5 minutes to retreive. Probably why it already had a round in it.
 
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muon said:
Also the whole purpose of a gun for self defence is surely such that it doesn't take 5 minutes to retreive. Probably why it already had a round in it.
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if the gun was for the self defence of the owner then why the hell was he leaving it somewhere it could be taken without his knowledge? completely defeats the purpose.

yes the individual owner has responsibility here for not keeping track of a dangerous weapon, of course what do you expect when firearms are so commonly available and have such a blase culture surrounding them, they're going to end up in the hands of irresponsible idiot then **** like this happens.
 
MissChief said:
Apparently there was a single bullet in the gun.
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Why? Very few guns nowadays require reloading after each shot. Maybe none other than period correct replicas for historical re-enactment.

But anyway, it was the safety being on that was the relevant issue. Unless trying to fire a gun with the safety on renders the bullet unusable and I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
 
The frequently repeated lie that fatal shootings only occur in gun free zones is busted again. This time it's a Kroger supermarket. Kroger has a pro-gun policy that allows customers to open carry (even though polls have repeatedly shown that customers are opposed to it). What could possibly go wrong?

Jeffersontown Police Chief Sam Rogers said late Wednesday afternoon that a man walked into the busy Kroger location at 9080 Taylorsville Road, near the corner of Hurstbourne Parkway, and fired multiple shots at a man.

The shooter then walked outside and fired more shots at a woman. Both of those victims died at the scene, Rogers said.

Moments after the killer shot the woman in the parking lot, the suspect then encountered another man who had a gun. They fired shots at each other but missed. One witness told WAVE 3 News that the shooter at one point said “whites don’t kill whites.”

Multiple sources have confirmed to WAVE 3 News that both victims were black. They have not been officially identified.
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(Source).

Kroger also has a policy against skateboards in their stores. Because they're obviously unsafe.
 
Just saw that come up on the news. Hopefully with the recent events this isn't a sign of a rising number of people taking matters into their own hands in the US.
 
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