Tomb Raider Thread

People are playing this on Normal? Who the hell plays games on Normal any more? Whack it up to Hard and give yourself a challenge!

"Hard" mode on way too many games these days is just frustrating rather than a challenge i.e. instead of smarter enemy they just spam explosives more often, etc.

Easily fixed by using a pad.

Why on earth would I play a game on PC with a pad?
 
Why on earth wouldn't you play a game on PC with a pad?

Some games are better suited to a pad, some are better suited to a keyboard and mouse, at least with a PC you have the choice.
 
OK there are some games that play better on a pad but theres no good reason why Tomb Raider can't play perfectly fine with keyboard and mouse and its a much more enjoyable experience when you have properly working freelook, strafe, etc. rather than clunking around with a controller like some kind of cripple.
 
I don't understand the condescending nature of PC gamers when it comes to controllers.

Some games are suited to pads, some aren't, some can be played well on both. No need to refer to people who use pads as cripples.


You're perfectly welcome to think it might play better on a mouse and keyboard, others are perfectly welcome to think it plays fine on a pad. Such a hilariously stupid attitude.
 
Ever since I got my wireless receiver for the 360 pad, I have played more games with it than my mouse and keyboard :p

Just find it more immersing and relaxing especially for third person games like this :p Plus it is great being able to just sit back further away from my monitor than sitting up right close to the monitor.

Only time I will ever use K+M again will be for FPS online and point and click games like the walking dead.
 
I don't understand the condescending nature of PC gamers when it comes to controllers.

Some games are suited to pads, some aren't, some can be played well on both. No need to refer to people who use pads as cripples.


You're perfectly welcome to think it might play better on a mouse and keyboard, others are perfectly welcome to think it plays fine on a pad. Such a hilariously stupid attitude.

Couldn't agree more.
 
Ever since I got my wireless receiver for the 360 pad, I have played more games with it than my mouse and keyboard :p

Just find it more immersing and relaxing especially for third person games like this :p Plus it is great being able to just sit back further away from my monitor than sitting up right close to the monitor.

Only time I will ever use K+M again will be for FPS online and point and click games like the walking dead.

Couldn't agree morer.
 
I don't understand the condescending nature of PC gamers when it comes to controllers.

Some games are suited to pads, some aren't, some can be played well on both. No need to refer to people who use pads as cripples.


You're perfectly welcome to think it might play better on a mouse and keyboard, others are perfectly welcome to think it plays fine on a pad. Such a hilariously stupid attitude.

I'm not referring to people using pads as cripples, but the nature of fluidity of control ingame. If people want to use pads I'm fine by that but theres no reason why this game can't play perfectly fine on keyboard and mouse also, tons of other games of a similiar nature manage it like batman and dishonored as I mentioned before. Yaw on a button and having to use auto/aim assist to realistically pull off headshots and so on just doesn't do it for me.
 
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In fact, there are several members of this very forum who are disabled and play games on their PC's with controllers, I'd put good money on one in particular playing Dead Space much better than I do.

To say nothing of the hilariously stupid condescending attitude to controllers you seem to have.

I don't think you were referring to the 'nature of fluidity' as a controller can be just as fluid as a mouse and keyboard, it all depends on the person playing it.
 
In fact, there are several members of this very forum who are disabled and play games on their PC's with controllers, I'd put good money on one in particular playing Dead Space much better than I do.

To say nothing of the hilariously stupid condescending attitude to controllers you seem to have.

I don't think you were referring to the 'nature of fluidity' as a controller can be just as fluid as a mouse and keyboard, it all depends on the person playing it.

Now your blowing my words into something they were never intended to be. Drawing that connection is pretty disgusting really.

EDIT: I've expressed my opinon on this on these forums half a dozen times in the past probably bit better put so I can pull out some old posts that show I meant exactly the precision of control ingame.
 
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Yaw on a button and having to use auto/aim assist to realistically pull off headshots and so on just doesn't do it for me.

I had big problems with that when I first started using the controller but after a week of playing I have got used to it and am much better at aiming now, still not as good as M+K and never will be but can't say that I have any problems with the pad now i.e. sniper elite NZA, I am pulling of headshots very easily with the 360 pad and not missing very much at all and it can be pretty hard to get headshots in that game due to their movement.
 
I had big problems with that when I first started using the controller but after a week of playing I have got used to it and am much better at aiming now, still not as good as M+K and never will be but can't say that I have any problems with the pad now i.e. sniper elite NZA, I am pulling of headshots very easily with the 360 pad and not missing very much at all and it can be pretty hard to get headshots in that game due to their movement.

Yeah its possible but given the choice I'd take keyboard and mouse every time and theres no good reason why this game couldn't have better PC controls infact the platformer type aspects of it are few and far between even.

The annoying thing is when you press the aim key it does actually work properly for the most part but as soon as you stop aiming it goes back to silly movement again.
 
OK there are some games that play better on a pad but theres no good reason why Tomb Raider can't play perfectly fine with keyboard and mouse and its a much more enjoyable experience when you have properly working freelook, strafe, etc. rather than clunking around with a controller like some kind of cripple.

Hmm. You where the one that seems to draw comparisons to using a game pad and suffering some form of disability.

It's a hilariously stupid attitude to have. I don't understand the level of hate from PC gamers to anything new and 'console like', pads are brilliant for some games, not brilliant for others and equally brilliant for some.

Enjoy playing on your mouse and keyboard.
 
Not that it matters now, but has one single PC specific publication or website reviewed the game yet?
 
Hmm. You where the one that seems to draw comparisons to using a game pad and suffering some form of disability.

It's a hilariously stupid attitude to have. I don't understand the level of hate from PC gamers to anything new and 'console like', pads are brilliant for some games, not brilliant for others and equally brilliant for some.

Enjoy playing on your mouse and keyboard.

I've never had a problem with people playing these kind of games on a pad if thats what they want to do, I have very little time for people who suggest using a pad when I've already stated multiple times in the same thread that I have no interest in doing such. Its not like its a pure platformer, space shooter or similiar where a pad is generally superior.
 
Wow, didn't mean to cause a fight!

This game was obviously designed around using a pad, and so its logical to expect the pad to be the better control method and the keyboard controls to be less suited.

In much the same way something like CS is designed for keyboard and mouse. Sure you can play it with a pad, but it wont be as good, and I'm certainly not going to start shouting about how CS is ruined for me because I play on a pad.

(I don't play CS on a pad, its just an example).
 
Wow, didn't mean to cause a fight!

This game was obviously designed around using a pad, and so its logical to expect the pad to be the better control method and the keyboard controls to be less suited.

In much the same way something like CS is designed for keyboard and mouse. Sure you can play it with a pad, but it wont be as good, and I'm certainly not going to start shouting about how CS is ruined for me because I play on a pad.

Its designed around using a pad on a console but its not a reason why it can't be ported properly to keyboard and mouse controls, unlike some tomb raider titles of late that were more platformer focused, infact parts of this game are pure COD with a tomb raider skin :D couldn't help but think the bridge bit was inspired by "All Ghillied Up".
 
Its easier to move around, jump, scramble, perform QTE's with the pad. Obviously.

But the mouse if infinitely better for aiming at and dispatching enemies.

I was firmly in the m+kb corner before I got this, I persevered for a day or two but switched to the pad (mainly because of the QTE's). I've yet to have a baddy kill me and I've easily dispatched of them but aiming with the analogue stick is messy. Simple as that. When the bad guys are static, no probs but when you have wolves or whatever rushing you its usually a sloppy arrow (or three) into its backside that downs it instead of a perfectly placed mouse assisted headshot.
 
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