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I'm a hardware enthusiast, i like debating it and since we only have two CPU vendors i have to chose one or the other based on its merits and with that explain my reasoning when owning one, i have no doubt that if i had chosen Intel we wouldn't be having this conversation, not that you see it as that, your attempt to assassinate me personally in an attempt to get me to shut up makes that perfectly clear.
It took you what, 3 posts to become a vile individual? people don't react like they belong in a nursery unless when presented with an argument they don't like but find difficult to challenge, i'm defiantly doing something right. And if that's who you are getting up your nose is no skin off mine, throw at me what you like.
I have been nothing but cordial. you are a hateful individual.
PS: you obviously haven't seen my reasoning for owning a GTX 1070 instead of Vega or anyother current AMD Graphics card
All you haters can ###############
Yawn. Same again. Throw some low level personal insults about being hateful etc then go complain to a mod.
Nothing personal at all. Your post history easily shows I’m not making anything up.
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As i have said before i dont think the 8400 will age well, compared to the 2600x at least i really dont think that it will do so well down the line and you have to factor this in when considering your hardware.
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I myself moved from an 1800X to an 8700K as I was seeing 80% GPU usage and sometimes lower at 3440x1440P which to me made no sense as I thought it was a GPU dependant resolution but once the 8700K was in my performance did go up by a noticeable amount.
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Your probably right. Intel are all about the here and now. I think now they have a little pressure from AMD they will bring out the big guns. 4 cores have been fine for a long time but they are slowly coming more into play.
I think intel have been dangling a carrot infornt of us for a long time and why not?
Yep, my GPU is running warmer and i've been stressing trying to figure out why. Turns out it's actually hitting 100% usage now....
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I wanted to reply stating my thoughts and results from moving from Ryzen to Intel but with all the non relevant nonsense comments in this thread, I won't for fear of reprisal. In actual fact, there have been several threads that I've not participated in because of the school boy bickering that appears to go on from some.
Maybe, and if, a mod reads the above they may want to have a word with the kids within this thread.
What's wrong with my comment? Stating a fact that my gpu is being fully utilised now I have an 8600k?
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If your comment is going to be constructive then comment away, No harm no foul
Yeah the ONLY reason I switched from my 1800X as my main CPU to an 8700K is purely for gaming, I did LOADS of before and after tests and even at 3440x1440P I have increased performance with the 8700K.
I still do have an 1800X based system purely for rendering and folding though.
So like, did you get a jump from 50fps @ 4k to 60fps in gaming? Gimme some rough stats
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So like, did you get a jump from 50fps @ 4k to 60fps in gaming? Gimme some rough stats
1440P Far Cry 5 max settings I got around 90FPS with the 1800X at 4GHz paired with 3400MHz memory and with the 8700K @ 5GHz paired with 3600MHz memory I got around 106, Same story with most games I've tested hence why I've relegated my 1800X purely to rendering duties.
90 vs 106. So 17% more with 25% higher clocks, if you had asked me i would have told you to get the 8700K for that Titan Xp but having said that considering you would have got exactly the same performance with a £160 Ryzen 1600 you're not getting all that much more for a lot more money.
Which is why i make the argument that if you have something less than a GTX 1080TI saving £200 and getting the Ryzen 5 instead you're losing nothing in gaming performance but you gain £200 to spend on something else.
BTW, clock for clock the gaming performance is up 7% Ryzen 1 vs Ryzen 2. add the extra 300/400Mhz clock speeds on top of that and there is little in it now anyway.
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Well I have my Ryzen rig so I may drop in a 2700X in a few months when a sale goes up but currently for gaming going off the various benchmarks my 5GHz 8700K is still the way to go to squeeze all the frames out of my GPU.
I agree it is, the 8700K is still the best CPU for getting the most out of the best GPU's. I often feel like in these threads that i have to keep saying that, i have never made the argument that it was not the best gaming CPU, it clearly is, what i'm saying is its not the only right choice, the Ryzen CPU's fill an important gap, or a few.
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I completely agree
I have funds set aside for the 2700X as I'd like the slightly better render and folding performance for my dedicated render/folding Ryzen rig but I'm waiting to see if AMD come out with the rumoured 2800X so then I can drop that in my Asus Prime X370 Pro
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Nothing, I quoted the wrong person. Sorry. Agree with you completely.
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Yes the 8700k might well be currently the very best for spitting out frames but for what cost?
The chip itself is not cheep, you need really good cooling and to pass off the big 5Ghz + numbers you need to delid as well - plus is uses a shed load of power and gets hot a buggery and you still will only have 6 cores 12 threads down the line like i have with my 5820k.
Add in a dead end upgrade path and some dubious chip level security and well you really do have to want those last few fps really badly.
To top it all off you will only see big differences over other cpus in lower resolutions or where the video card is not a bottleneck. Yup well worth it folks.
The chip itself is not cheep, you need really good cooling and to pass off the big 5Ghz + numbers you need to delid as well - plus is uses a shed load of power and gets hot a buggery and you still will only have 6 cores 12 threads down the line like i have with my 5820k.
Add in a dead end upgrade path and some dubious chip level security and well you really do have to want those last few fps really badly.
To top it all off you will only see big differences over other cpus in lower resolutions or where the video card is not a bottleneck. Yup well worth it folks.
i wouldn't bother, he wont ever see the other side of the argument. Same old schtick over and over and over.