Toyota Yaris GR4 4x4 Rally going into production.....

Simon said:
Everyone got a hard on for the GT86, the fact is Honda did much better with the S2000, 15yrs before it was launched. The GT86 was so underpowered they even had to stick Prius tyres on it to make it 'fun'.
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Hate to get involved an an argument started by Nasher's odd opinions, but I have to disagree here. I'll not defend the lack of power, but I had the car on premium tyres long before I did anything about that, and it was still great fun to drive. Even with the Prius tyres, going sideways was never something I really aspired to doing as the epitome of fun driving. I've had it seven and a half years now, and I still get enormous enjoyment out of it every Sunday morning, and not by going full Initial D at every roundabout.

For the record though, I do agree about the hype. The Yaris GR is certainly going to be a better prospect in terms of the numbers it delivers, whilst being as fun.
 
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Nasher said:
The interior is the last thing I care about on a performance car.
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Probably why you don't have a hot hatch then I'd imagine. A hot hatch is supposed to be a brilliant everyday car with a performance edge not a no compromise who cares about the interior sports car.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Probably why you don't have a hot hatch then I'd imagine. A hot hatch is supposed to be a brilliant everyday car with a performance edge not a no compromise who cares about the interior sports car.
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I've had a few hot hatches.

They are supposed to be light and affordable. With the focus on performance and some practicality. But the Germans kinda drifted away from that years ago and started making hatchback shaped GT cars.
 
The Running Man said:
How does it feel power wise / power delivery compared to an evo with it having a smaller 3cylinder ?
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Less laggy engine is more flexible which does not compute considering it’s a 3cyl 1.6l but that I guess is how far technology has come along.

I thin in real world performance there would not be much in it but the EVO had a little more urgency beyond 4000rpm but in fairness I’d expect that as it had 150 more horses or so but due to weight difference the Yaris feels very potent, over 300 miles now as got my brother early this morning and it’s has no issue performing overtakes and because of the engine flexibility and very short gearing 4th gear is exceptional in this car.

I think it’s lack of weight and very short gearing is what let’s it punch well beyond its weight as to speak and the brakes are literally Porsche GT class if not better.

I think one of these tuned to 350-400 horses would be absolutely mental on the basis if it can still put the power down, but freezing cold conditions zero traction issues and I’ve found when it runs out of grip as long as your not ham fisted and modulating throttle it is very communicative and progressive.

The car eggs you on big time and it’s very capable and though it feels fun at all speeds it could get you in a lot of trouble and for that reason I’m keeping my exhaust stock to try and stay of the radar so to speak.

Don’t burn me alive but I love the fake noise it makes on the inside!
 
Gibbo said:
Less laggy engine is more flexible which does not compute considering it’s a 3cyl 1.6l but that I guess is how far technology has come along.


Don’t burn me alive but I love the fake noise it makes on the inside!
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Burnnnn!!

I can't believe the sacrilege coming from someone who owned a saleen :cool:

Interesting to hear though, thanks for the feedback.
 
The Running Man said:
Burnnnn!!

I can't believe the sacrilege coming from someone who owned a saleen :cool:

Interesting to hear though, thanks for the feedback.
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One car I wish I never sold, so miss it and did consider getting one again but having owned it twice it was time to try something else American.

Fake sound is a good sound, not so sure an exhaust will be a good sound on the Yaris suspect it would probably be just loud noise that’s more annoying than pleasing.
 
I suspect a more worthwhile sound change will be a proper intake, changing to a K&N on my 4C unleashed a lot of turbo whooshing and whistling which frankly sounds amazing.
 
Chris1712 said:
I suspect a more worthwhile sound change will be a proper intake, changing to a K&N on my 4C unleashed a lot of turbo whooshing and whistling which frankly sounds amazing.
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When I removed the small intake snorkel (seems to be there just for sound dampening) on my Elise you could feel it through your chest lol. Just taking that bit of pipe out made the intake so loud.
 
Gibbo said:
One car I wish I never sold, so miss it and did consider getting one again but having owned it twice it was time to try something else American.
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It was one of the most impressive cars I've passengered in, I don't know why, but the shove was better than almost everything else I've experienced, and I've been in hyper cars at Vmax.
 
hurfdurf said:
It was one of the most impressive cars I've passengered in, I don't know why, but the shove was better than almost everything else I've experienced, and I've been in hyper cars at Vmax.
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Yep it was impressive but I guess it was maybe due to how mechanical it was and even though people like to think of American cars as heavy it was pretty light compared to modern cars as I think it was just under or over 1600kg which for something with 600HP is not bad but just very basic engineering and a manual it had a rawness and strong pull to hit, but the fact it could accelerate from 20mph to 165mph in 4th in no time. Shame it got crashed and blown up!
 
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