Trading the stockmarket (NO Referrals)

twoblacklines said:
I do virtual stocks, and im doing ok, you start off with £100k virtually, and i only do long term.
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What is the point then?

I'm not sure what you mean by long term (perhaps a few years) but even if you're talking several months its still going to take many years to really be sure you're beating the index in the long term.

Don't get me wrong I think trading with say a simulator is useful for short term strategies (it will at least indicate if something doesn't work) but I can't see the point in 'simulating' long term investments like this.
 
dowie said:
What is the point then?

I'm not sure what you mean by long term (perhaps a few years) but even if you're talking several months its still going to take many years to really be sure you're beating the index in the long term.

Don't get me wrong I think trading with say a simulator is useful for short term strategies (it will at least indicate if something doesn't work) but I can't see the point in 'simulating' long term investments like this.
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It's OK, he's been perma'd. :D
 
I'm not going to get too greedy with it, once my initial investments out (or 75% at least) i'll leave it ;) unless it tops a £1 within 6 months in which case I will literally need medical attention.
 
If HER hits £1 I'll join you on that!

BAO looks fun for next year too but my brain only has room to cope with so many tiny high-risk exploration companies.
 
Beansprout said:
Following the fundamentals, big money and good BOD (HER has a great website, great history of positive, well-written RNSs / press releases) is my favourite strategy. By comparison see FML for a company with good fundamentals and great prospects but poor RNSs and a stagnant share price.
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Wouldn't you rather put money into a company that invested its time in running that company, rather than having to sell it through a glitzy website? I'm not commenting on this example specifically, but it sounds to be likely a fairly risky strategy. In my day job if I feel like I am being sold something I worry! The real money is surely found by finding the gems that no-one understands the story about due to lack of current focus on marketing.
 
A gem that lies in the dirt can stay there for years just the same. a lot about shares is capturing the momentum in them, trading is more risky and that attitude of buying whats popular is slightly flawed like you say

But every company has to sell itself to some extent, not the shareholders but the money lenders also. Good presentation is a positive so long as thats not all they have

Investing in the unpopular is a classic buffet line but not many could pull that off and most people arent that rich. Anything he touches becomes popular.

Some things are explosive or spring loaded in their nature, pressure builds from poor supply to rising demand. Commodities are like that but I think a lot of shares can stay unpopular for years and mines take that long to setup


Compared to setting up a mine, a website costs nothing.



Volume on RRL was so good today I didnt really think it right to sell much. The market in general is almost stalled, usa tax year ends tommorow. But I think these few penny shares are doing ok.
HER sounds interesting and silver might fall but generally I'd like to see a good chart for them to see how it figures

rrl said:
Day's Range: 7.60 - 8.20
52wk Range: 4.00 - 9.20
Volume: 38,360,784
Avg Vol (3m): 16,717,000
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silversurfer said:
Investing in the unpopular is a classic buffet line but not many could pull that off and most people arent that rich. Anything he touches becomes popular.
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It's not supposed to be easy :D. The average investment fund (i.e. a fund staffed by "professional" full time investors") posts below index returns.

Buffet is probably a unique case in the sense a lot of momentum follows his investment, but generally speaking the richer you get or the more you have to invest the harder it gets as you need to invest in bigger, more marketable and better covered stocks.
 
John_V85 said:
Wouldn't you rather put money into a company that invested its time in running that company, rather than having to sell it through a glitzy website? I'm not commenting on this example specifically, but it sounds to be likely a fairly risky strategy. In my day job if I feel like I am being sold something I worry! The real money is surely found by finding the gems that no-one understands the story about due to lack of current focus on marketing.
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A company with a decent site, lots of info and news on exactly what they're doing, makes life easy and shows that they're on the ball.

But "website, BOD and RNSs" are one and the same - compare the RNSs of the likes of DES, LDP and FML to those of HER and XEL for example. The first lot are hapless and confusing, and the latter are exactly waht they should be - competent.

I found HER and RRL via research (aka 'clicking around on the interweb') early this year and have held them since.

I like to follow people, too - eg Dave Paxton of VGM recently joined OTC.
 
Oh that's just sodding typical!

I've had a sell order set up for months for SAR at .34
Hit .35 today just before lunch...

My sell order ran out on Christmas Eve. FFS
Wouldn't have been so bad if I was at work and it kind of passed me by but I've been sat here all day on the PC. :mad:
 
John_V85 said:
It's not supposed to be easy :D. The average investment fund (i.e. a fund staffed by "professional" full time investors") posts below index returns.

Buffet is probably a unique case in the sense a lot of momentum follows his investment, but generally speaking the richer you get or the more you have to invest the harder it gets as you need to invest in bigger, more marketable and better covered stocks.
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^^^
this

In their case size isn't on their side also their fund could be fairly restricted.

Not really a problem for private investors (even those who have family offices).
 
verbal said:
Good luck to everyone for 2011. RKH is still the opportunity that shouldn't be missed.
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maybe at a couple of quid but 3.60 sounds expensive to me. there are far better companies to invest in for that sort of money where you will see a better return both in the short and long term.
 
fendi said:
maybe at a couple of quid but 3.60 sounds expensive to me. there are far better companies to invest in for that sort of money where you will see a better return both in the short and long term.
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Exactly what I was going to post. RKH is way over priced might be a good investment to short them £3.60 stop loss £4.50 all the way down to £1.50 when they announce abandonment.

£3.60 is the right price for a company that can conclusively commercialise their oil find at a good flow rate. At the moment RKH are far from that but I must say I do admire RKHs 'desire' to find oil unlike others that I bear not mention ;)

Also RKH has got some good acreage up north where I feel the real finds will happen.

Do your research boys n girls

My money is in minerals/mining at the moment and are all doing very well.
 
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