Trading the stockmarket (NO Referrals)

dowie · 26 Nov 2015 at 13:54

daz said:
I could have started a new thread but I thought this might be as good a place as any to ask - anyone put any money in to any crowd finance sites (e.g. Funding Circle)? The returns look quite good and it seems like as long as you diversify sufficiently, then your risk is quite a bit lower as well. I've just put some spare money in to start with so just interested in the views of anyone who's perhaps been on there for a while.

might be best to start a new thread if you want more people to see that question, this thread is more related to investing/trading equities

silversurfer · 26 Nov 2015 at 14:17

I was going to say check http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/ because they do a lot of that kind thing, looking for a home for mortgage deposits the best interest etc

inferno · 1 Dec 2015 at 10:36

What are people's thoughts in emerging markets, they are down a lot so it seems a good time to buy, I only put 5000 usd in and it's at a loss so I want to buy more!!

Simon · 1 Dec 2015 at 10:52

Which 'emerging' markets exactly ?

inferno · 1 Dec 2015 at 11:15

I am investing long term for my pension in index funds , so I was looking at vanguard emerging market etf, but recently I just saw how much porsche has dropped, it seems like a good buy!

Elixir · 1 Dec 2015 at 12:32

inferno said:
What are people's thoughts in emerging markets, they are down a lot so it seems a good time to buy, I only put 5000 usd in and it's at a loss so I want to buy more!!

inferno said:
I am investing long term for my pension in index funds , so I was looking at vanguard emerging market etf, but recently I just saw how much porsche has dropped, it seems like a good buy!

I'm fairly new to investing but "it's gone down so it must go up!" or "I've lost money so I'm going to put more in to make up for it" (known as averaging down) is widely criticised as a decision.

Why do you think they are going to go up?

peterwalkley · 1 Dec 2015 at 13:03

With emerging markets it is a straight gamble. Here's a fairly negative viewpoint, but the most recent edition of the Economist was optimistic at least for South America following the election of a pro business and pro reform president.

inferno · 1 Dec 2015 at 16:32

Elixir said:
I'm fairly new to investing but "it's gone down so it must go up!" or "I've lost money so I'm going to put more in to make up for it" (known as averaging down) is widely criticised as a decision.

Why do you think they are going to go up?

I have faith in the Chinese economy for the long term, so I don't think it's a risk. I'll keep putting money monthly into that and the ftse. I just bought 5500 USD of VW shares, I don't think the company is going anywhere and will be better run after the scandal.

silversurfer · 2 Dec 2015 at 19:36

I would rather spread out equity purchases over a year, telegraph did an article 12 days of xmas oncoming with big finance decision by FED ECB that could 'alter the world' Its essentially trillions in the balance so not that great an exaggeration

Bloomberg Business ‏@business 3h3 hours ago
Volkswagen believed to be planning $21 billion bridge financing deal to cover scandal http://bloom.bg/1OwNLWi

China does have a slightly ironic problem, not enough people. Or least a falling working population which does cause effects in an economy such as a rising labour cost possibly inflation, lack of growth

coolsurfer · 3 Dec 2015 at 14:26

inferno said:
I have faith in the Chinese economy for the long term, so I don't think it's a risk. I'll keep putting money monthly into that and the ftse. I just bought 5500 USD of VW shares, I don't think the company is going anywhere and will be better run after the scandal.

I wish I had the spare cash to do this mate but you are right on the money.

Investing is (for me anyway) a 20-30 year horizon. VW has fantastic brands which are not going out of date anytime soon. They will sell cars this year and they will sell cars for the forseable and repair their reputation - what happened will just be a blip in 5+ years. You can buy a great company for a great price and you'll be laughing in the years to come.

silversurfer · 3 Dec 2015 at 22:16

Big blip but yea main point would be their business product remaining in demand

Saudi Arabia has challenged other big oil producers to join it in output cuts, saying it will back actions to shore up prices next year if these are mirrored by rivals both inside and outside the cartel.
While the proposal from Opec’s de facto leader sets a high bar for a deal and is unlikely to lead to a cut at Friday’s meeting in Vienna, it paves the way for a possible agreement in the future.

It also marks a softening in tone from the world’s largest oil exporter, which led the cartel’s shift in policy a year ago, arguing that keeping the taps open would put pressure on high-cost rivals. The move upended the oil industry and triggered the biggest price slump in at least a decade.

kinda a big deal

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4d0b6adc-998a-11e5-95c7-d47aa298f769.html#axzz3tIV1Ymwh

https://t.co/ps4lHnF8ji

Miner meltdown: If you had invested £100 in each of the 7 FTSE-100 listed miners in June 2011, ie £700, you would have £280 left today...

dowie · 24 Dec 2015 at 22:33

interactive brokers is better value for CFDs - it looks like Ayondo use the bucket shop model anyway which presents its own inherent conflicts of interest, interactive brokers on the other hand just acts as a broker and you'll deal with the actual order book at the exchange via them. IG Markets also offers this but they charge more.

the prospect of shadowing supposed top traders is a bit dubious - there are some potential issues there with regards to how fills are allocated etc.. also how performance is evaluated to begin with.

silversurfer · 1 Jan 2016 at 20:18

Q & A on stock dividends - http://www.stockchallenge.co.uk/site/faq.htm

Same site is running a stock pick league for 2016, about the cheapest least effort way to find out if you are an investment genius akin to picking Cisco and MS circa 1990 or not!

Matutu · 5 Jan 2016 at 13:55

Gents,

Recently I invested some money through a colleague on a tip from a old college mate. This has returned a sizable amount of money.

For this I am looking to invest another 3k however would like abit more control. What Brokers do people recommend to sign up for? many seem to offer some advantages, but any recommendations?

Thanks.

dowie · 5 Jan 2016 at 14:11

Depends what you're planning to do

Matutu · 5 Jan 2016 at 14:16

Make a few short term investments

cadmunkey · 5 Jan 2016 at 14:42

What kind of control are you wanting? Where did you invest for the share tip, just your banks broker? If you are going to be trading shares long term I'd suggest getting an ISA.

Matutu · 5 Jan 2016 at 14:46

Well to be honest I am very green at this and the stock market. Basically A colleague knew of a company who was collecting a very large contract. I agreed to invest 3k in shares gave him the money. Then sat for 2 weeks, then was handed 4.5k back due to the share increase. That is all I know.

Therefore I am in for a lot of research and reading I know but I am interested and willing to put the time in to investigate doing this further.

peterwalkley · 5 Jan 2016 at 14:51

Matutu said:
Gents,

Recently I invested some money through a colleague on a tip from a old college mate. This has returned a sizable amount of money.

For this I am looking to invest another 3k however would like abit more control. What Brokers do people recommend to sign up for? many seem to offer some advantages, but any recommendations?

Thanks.

When I looked around the big names around were all much of a muchness frankly: Hargreaves Lansdown, TD Waterhouse, Barclays. I'd stick with the bigger names just for safety. Unless you are planning to do a lot of trading, its not worth shopping around on price.

silversurfer · 5 Jan 2016 at 14:53

Know when you are lucky in life, 2 weeks for 50% is roulette wheel stuff barring insider dealing which is illegal but anyhow, sounds like you want to be in investment trusts which are more balanced and detailed in their risks and rewards.

I usually browse funds on HL or morningstar, you dont have to buy at those places but it gives details on underlying investments and management track record. Just single stocks is a gamble really

Miner meltdown: If you had invested £100 in each of the 7 FTSE-100 listed miners in June 2011, ie £700, you would have £280 left today...

if the biggest firms can do this, the smaller ones evaporate altogether. Overal the FT100 or london index of 100 largest firms (not just uk exactly but listed here) has risen since 2011, so its less risky to be in a trust vs specific sectors even.