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Well, I'm putting my money where my mouth is: like I've said above, I think US is looking good and I do not expect a £ recovery, plus I don't have time for active investments, so I went long term with S&P500 . Warren Buffet's bet on this ETF outperforming any other hedge fund over 10 years played its part too haha :)

Hopefully this small investment stream will keep me motivated to learn more about the whole game, atm I dont even trully understand what S&P500 is lol. E.g. if Google was to disappear from the top 500 in 2026, and I was still holding the ETF that I've bought today, would that one ETF still contain Google, or would it be gone and replaced with some other US company that made it into the top 500 in 2026- would my 2016 S&P500 ETF still contain the (by then worthless) Google?
 
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Borsch said:
Well, I'm putting my money where my mouth is: like I've said above, I think US is looking good and I do not expect a £ recovery, plus I don't have time for active investments, so I went long term with S&P500 . Warren Buffet's bet on this ETF outperforming any other hedge fund over 10 years played its part too haha :)

Hopefully this small investment stream will keep me motivated to learn more about the whole game, atm I dont even trully understand what S&P500 is lol. E.g. if Google was to disappear from the top 500 in 2026, and I was still holding the ETF that I've bought today, would that one ETF still contain Google, or would it be gone and replaced with some other US company that made it into the top 500 in 2026- would my 2016 S&P500 ETF still contain the (by then worthless) Google?
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Ah nice one, a cheap one I hope! :D


The ETF will change it's holdings based on the proportion of the company within the index and replicate the performance of the index by investing in the companies inside it. So if Google dropped out of the S&P500 there wouldn't be any Google in the ETF, same as if a company goes into the S&P500 stock of that company would get bought by the ETF manager (read computer :D).
 
Thanks for the explanation, googling the answer would take much longer with loads of treacle-like jargon to wade through.

Azza said:
Ah nice one, a cheap one I hope! :D
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Sorry, dont get what you mean :) SP500 cant be cheap can it? I mean on a particular day, its price is fixed in the markets, right? I think it should be lowish now with the uncertainty of the elections, and, as I bet on Hillary's victory, I also bet that it will pick up after the elections. So cheap, yes ;) Not as cheap as immediately after Brexit though :(
 
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As in the ongoing charge by the fund manager.

For example

Vanguard S&P 500 tracker - 0.07%

HSBC S&P 500 - 0.09%


Trackers generally all have low charges, because there's not some suit behind them making the decisions, not like them suits earn their fee in active funds :D. Vanguard and iShares (BlackRock) for ETFs, Vanguard, BlackRock for Funds generally all offer the best tracking for the lowest cost.


At some point you'll want to diverse into more markets, Vanguard even offer what's called LifeStrategy & Target Retirement and they contain weighted holdings across different indexes of equities and bonds. Amazing if you just want to invest and forget about it.
 
Yucca said:
Why did you sell Boohoo just out of interest? Still showing good growth even this week and I feel its got long term potential. Same with Amazon - I think there is long term growth here. And as its just took a hit, 5% down, now is the time to buy in my book. Why did you sell?

Facebook is certainly stronger than Netflix, I agree. Google also seems very strong.
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I didn't sell Boohoo. I won't for a long time judging by all the girls I see buying from them. They've risen near 50% since I invested.

Amazon is probably a good long term bet, but I was up around 25% and wanted to release the cash. The fact that they don't pay dividends also came into play. I will wait and see how the market is looking before investing in them again.

Gopro, I cut and ran. I invested expecting them to release a killer new drone and camera. Initially it looked like they had and shares shot up. I even bought a Hero 5 black and it's a very good product, but not really a step up video quality wise, then later there were rumblings that the drone wasn't up to scratch.

I'm into Apple, but was underwhelmed by their latest announcement. However I expect them to have a good Christmas still, so will reserve judgement until those figure are released, or slightly before if I get an inkling as to where they might be headed.
 
Thnaks s&p 500 doesn't look good and I agree, wont invest in anything with more than like a couple of percent in uk companies atm. If May does what she says, next year will be hell.
 
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, but I'm not sure about Netflix. How many more subscribers can they add? I reckon more of their cash will start coming from licensing the original content they produce/have rights to.
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Well they will just keep gaining and gaining subscribers as everyone keeps ditching cable/satellite etc. they have 86m subscribers now and will assume they'll be going after more and more internationally? The US of course will keep gaining but at a slower rate.
Would bet houses on them doing well long term.
 
The US is about to falter into a recession again, i don't see how anyone thinks it is a bright idea to invest in that stagnant mess at the moment. The only reprieve right now for the US is Brexit, which has made it a bit hardier, but overall the picture is the same.
 
AMD appear to be doing well this last year with my book price more than doubling. Wonder if that might continue or if it's time to sell!
 
Azza said:
As in the ongoing charge by the fund manager.

For example

Vanguard S&P 500 tracker - 0.07%

HSBC S&P 500 - 0.09%


Trackers generally all have low charges, because there's not some suit behind them making the decisions, not like them suits earn their fee in active funds :D. Vanguard and iShares (BlackRock) for ETFs, Vanguard, BlackRock for Funds generally all offer the best tracking for the lowest cost.


At some point you'll want to diverse into more markets, Vanguard even offer what's called LifeStrategy & Target Retirement and they contain weighted holdings across different indexes of equities and bonds. Amazing if you just want to invest and forget about it.
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Ah, cheap in that sense... :) Yeah, I've done my tiny bit of research and went with iShares (Blackrock)- so yes, cheap (0.07% I think).

Looked at Vanguard's Lifestrategy& retirement too (thanks!), but its hard to judge for me at the moment.
 
I don't have the slightest clue what to do

For each Existing Rolls-Royce Holdings PLC Ordinary share held on 20th October 2016, holders have received an entitlement to 46 New Rolls-Royce C shares. Holders of C shares have the following options:

Option 1 - Redeem C shares for cash at their nominal value of 0.1p (one tenth of a penny) per C share.

Option 2 - Convert C shares into Rolls-Royce Ordinary shares. Under this option the C shares will be redeemed for cash with the redemption proceeds reinvested into Ordinary shares through the Company's C share reinvestment plan (CRIP).

Option 3 - Retain C shares with an opportunity to redeem or convert at a later date. (Please note that this is the default option. Should you wish to retain the C shares, no election is required).

Please note the C shares will not be listed or traded on any securities exchange. As a result of this the C shares will not be eligible to be held within an ISA product. Therefore holders of C shares within an ISA product will only be eligible to elect for Options 1 or 2. Holders of C shares within an ISA product who make no election will be deemed to have elected for Option 1 to redeem the C shares for cash.
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I used to have RR for years, picked up pennies for my trouble as they did nothing. Right now I presume they do well with cheap oil and gas (turbine power) and expanding asian air usage.

My Big reason to post is a big divergence to Brexit, ie. it might not happen.

High court says all MP must vote on it for any article 50


To me that means possible stronger sterling, at least off the bottom some upto 1.28 and then that means weaker gold. Sold some AAZ which have been so low for so long I presumed they had trouble but they done amazing this year 3p to 33p

I see FRES and RRS down some but they arent as high risk hopefully.
BP I thought looked strong? I was going to sell some but no, then it falls of course and oil may go lower
 
Any of you making any spread bets on the US election outcome? I think a Trump win would see a large immediate Wall St drop, especially as Wall St is currently pricing in a Hillary win. Dollar would also be another one with an instant reaction, but that is a bit too volatile for my liking.
 
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