Yeah, at the moment everything is relatively high risk because of all of the volatility. Getting in at the right time now should mean a tidy profit on any respectable stock, assuming that the markets do eventually recover as one expects.
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Strong cash flow companies for me
I'm not going near the airlines.
Any of them could go bust.
Also, we are no where near (imo) the end of the down trend.
We are almost out of options for market boosting and no where near end of the virus.
I'm not going near the airlines.
Any of them could go bust.
Also, we are no where near (imo) the end of the down trend.
We are almost out of options for market boosting and no where near end of the virus.
Agreed, we're getting all this information "drip drip" so that they don't panic people.
If TUI goes down to 20-30p I'll stick in a few quid, if it ever reaches the highs again it'll net me £20k, or I'll lose a few hundred. Doubt it'll hit those lows however.
So a holiday company that doesn't sell holiday seems like a good investment
(I do take your point but I think you'd be better with the money in the bank)People panic anyway, as they don't trust the government and assume the worst.
Oh naughty, the Dow below 20k, absolute filth this is.
So a holiday company that doesn't sell holiday seems like a good investment
Well you'd think that given the 100's of billions in loans on offer they'll stay afloat and the holidays will pick back up by 21/22
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Well you'd think that given the 100's of billions in loans on offer they'll stay afloat and the holidays will pick back up by 21/22
I applaud your optimism.
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Tui will have 1bn in net debt by the end of the year GUARANTEED.Well you'd think that given the 100's of billions in loans on offer they'll stay afloat and the holidays will pick back up by 21/22
Their forecast of high single digit % turnover is going to drop to mid % at the very least if not worse.
They will be need a bailout (basically begging for one at present), and I struggle to see how their annual 'good' earnings would even be able to leverage the increased debt.
You would be absolutely mad to invest.
Yes you would be mad to invest, I agree. I'm not saying I'm investing, just gambling.
I've read back through some of the older posts on this, but I'm after a Stocks and Shares ISA and currently looking at Trading 212 vs Vanguard. I'd be interested to know what you guys think about these two. I do like the modern feel of Trading 212, but I know Vanguard has the heritage. Both are FSC protected. I'm happy picking my own shares or investing in funds. I pulled out of the markets last year when I was using II, who I don't want to go back to, I don't like their fees.
Just had a look at the Vanguard S&S ISA. It looks as though you can only pick Vanguard funds through it, which if the case is too limiting in want you may want to do.
Amazing the amount of people in here that have crystal balls and seem to make the perfect trade every time.....
Really stunning that they are better at investment/trading than most of the 30 year veteran fund managers.
What date should I re-invest from cash? Please let me know
It's the internet bro.
Everyone 'called it'.
Everyone 'knew but was mocked'.
Everyone 'warned you but was ignored'.
Just give them a good scratch on the head so they get their bit of attention.
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Allowed ? yes if this is capitalism the loss and risk is part of it. Half of FTSE isnt UK, we have no place interfering directly like that. There is opportunity, RDSB is reset back quarter century on price at least so I'd not take airlines but the easier risk and certain asset which is sellers to industry such as RDSB. In a gold rush the mine supplies make the most I think is the old adage. The view we have is negative but some industry will gain from the market events relative to the pricing, before we consider cheap or excess money from central banks.
Really the way I view this is you dont ever shut the doors and block accounts and expect this to be seen as positive. In every sale there is a buyer also a seller who wants or does need that cash. Never close the market barring horrible failure and its a destruction of credibility if they do that or are forced to.
UK collects billions in taxes every year from foreigners just purely on our historic position in the world, as a world reverse currency, as one of the oldest FIAT standards, legal process and all sorts of assets which cannot be sacrificed even for this situation now. Its not a net gain, closure is 1929 full reset scale of things so its not a good idea.
QE shouldnt happen either and it is occurring so some will argue all the way to full socialism but I hope we do know better, uk, usa wherever.
The market is miopic - yep! said:
No they are horrified by the threat of deflation. It is amazing, I've wanted to say this before but this whole deal is generational and if you live to be a hundred it wont be able to repeat like it is now.
Virus is a bit of a trigger for that because its ruining the party planned but there will always be a natural occurrence of something, markets are natural not politically planned.
Capitalism is opposite to centralism etc. Taleb is someone to be aware of and discusses relevant dynamics I think
https://twitter.com/nntalebBBC Radio 4 on why this is not a Black Swan said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nassim_Nicholas_Taleb
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A global all-share index is a bet on continued productivity and growth for the world. Is this current crisis enough to bet against that? If yes, then what's the alternative? Guns and ammo??!
For the more speculative among us, I've increased my holdings in AAZ (no-debt, cash generative, gold-miner) and CAML (minimal debt, resources miner - copper, zinc and lead - can you imagine the bounce back here!?).
The above is not advice, but let's have some perspective here. If this is an existential threat to humanity, do you think things like 'ethics' and 'process' will be maintained? E.g. those who say a vaccine is 18 months away...really?! Come on now.
For the more speculative among us, I've increased my holdings in AAZ (no-debt, cash generative, gold-miner) and CAML (minimal debt, resources miner - copper, zinc and lead - can you imagine the bounce back here!?).
The above is not advice, but let's have some perspective here. If this is an existential threat to humanity, do you think things like 'ethics' and 'process' will be maintained? E.g. those who say a vaccine is 18 months away...really?! Come on now.