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The day trader in me says dont touch twitter with a barge pole for at least a month or two. imo its comparable to chasing the movers chart on AIM. Potential for gains but most likely it will end it a loss.
 
LizardKing said:
The day trader in me says dont touch twitter with a barge pole for at least a month or two. imo its comparable to chasing the movers chart on AIM. Potential for gains but most likely it will end it a loss.
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I agree over the short term, however I am quite bullish on Twitter over the long term, as soon as it turns around a real profit, similar to the Tesla first profit, it will swing quite high I am thinking, agree? :)
 
Phone and ask Iweb is probably best

Poundland shares wont be a pound because its not fixed but 10 or 1 the worth would be the same. Cant gimmick the market, wouldnt play well imo
dowie said:
in what way? why not name them? - might help the poster further up the thread avoid them
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Finspreads Someone else might love it now but their old layout I had done 5 years of data built up. This one I dont even get prices beyond 2011, they hobbled it.
But their sister brand city index might have the old layout still, so I guess I should go see


588 for RMG, tempting to sell. Slightly weaker here, in theory


Scott Redler ‏@RedDogT3Live 47s
#TWTR raising it's IPO price $23-$25 limits the amount of room 4 the market participants NOT in the deal-Next we'll hear is they add shares
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Sell BP and buy Weir I was thinking maybe but BP shares looking strong to 500 now. +2142 for Weir to recover
 
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Chaps - Spread betting, what's the realistic minimum to start up with? Tempted to dip my toe as it were but don't want to go in with too little to get a feel for how everything works.

Obviously this is disposable cash, so money I can afford to lose if it came down to it - but clearly preferably not.
 
SB is banned in USA for its dodgy appearance. They favour Chicago options, some home traders do this but you need like 50k to qualify I think

So in a similar way they are not legally allowed in the UK to give accounts to unexperienced investors.
So unoffically I'll say 100x BP or 500 quid but officially you need maybe 5 to 10k (or more)
 
silversurfer said:
Im not a good trader, cutting losses can be wise but I dont think this is a candidate to bail on.
I think in popularity, gold is washed out. I'd rather sell off when its being raved about, after all is just a block of metal. So to me its solid on the downside and upside I look to take profits. Long term I think gold is safer then it appears, its when they go insolvent that long term becomes pointless since they cant hold out but this company can so I wont sell at loss
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Thanks :cool:
 
Halfmad said:
Chaps - Spread betting, what's the realistic minimum to start up with? Tempted to dip my toe as it were but don't want to go in with too little to get a feel for how everything works.

Obviously this is disposable cash, so money I can afford to lose if it came down to it - but clearly preferably not.
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I started with just £200 this time around, enough for individual £1 stakes on sub-£10 shares. Depends how much you want to risk and play with really. I enjoy it more than anything and like knowing a bit about the markets through doing it, so am in no way a professional or money maker.

Does anyone know if IPOs come on the market for spread betting on the conditional or unconditional trading dates? I missed the start of RMG so don't know what happened with its dates.
 
RMG traded a grey price from 11th oct, but you could not short them.

MaX_PoWah said:
http://www.hl.co.uk/infinis/ipo-information

I like the look of this kind of business more than merlin
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Yep me too. Energy is an in demand product for UK, right now petrol is a bit lower and sterling is a bit higher but the trend is towards 200p litre petrol etc Nuclear is coming offline
However I own SEA, I might take a look if the ipo is unpopular
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http://www.retirementinvestingtoday.com/2013/11/valuing-ftse-100-november-2013.html
FTSE after including worth of pounds (which have halved in twenty years)

Weir recovered but decided not to swap BP for them. Is Gulf Keystone worth buying, seems relatively cheap on some disappointment?
 
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silversurfer said:
Finspreads Someone else might love it now but their old layout I had done 5 years of data built up. This one I dont even get prices beyond 2011, they hobbled it.
But their sister brand city index might have the old layout still, so I guess I should go see
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ah that's slightly different as those were two separate firms, separate platforms - one being bought out by the other - presumably they both now use city index's platform which might be the reason for the change you saw?
 
silversurfer said:
SB is banned in USA for its dodgy appearance. They favour Chicago options, some home traders do this but you need like 50k to qualify I think
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Basically spread betting firms did exist in the US about 100 years ago in the form of bucket shops.... they offered small punters the chance to trade stocks with small stakes/a lot of margin - the orders didn't get executed on the exchange but rather were bucketed by the firm, it was feasible for them to do this as most of the punters lost money - lots of leverage so only a small move against them forced their positions to close. Was quite popular at the time, lots of people losing money and so ended up getting banned. Obviously some people did win and went on to become very very successful - see the book 'reminiscences of a stock operator'.

Not sure what you mean exactly by "They favour Chicago options... you need like 50k to qualify" - you don't need 50k to trade options and I don't believe its more popular than simply trading cash equities - the US is full of discount brokerages, day trading firms etc... someone spread betting over here would likely be trading the underlying stocks themselves in the US - the brokers offer leverage (to 4*) and the ability to go short plus there is no stamp duty to pay. The limit on funds you're thinking about it probably the pattern day trader rules - you require 25k if you're day trading - (more than 4 such trades within 5 business days) - there are way around this too via some of the day trading firms though I believe you'd have to pass regulatory exams etc.. to avoid it.
 
A paper claimed it might be worth buying shares in ITV as they may be sitting on £100m pre tax profits if the Government change a law about rebroadcasting fees. Any truth in it?
 
A graph for ITV couple of years ago -
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Ive not heard about them XIB. My general opinion, declining market, declining company but I have not even looked tbh

email I got about deadlines
Dear Frequent Trader,



Merlin Entertainments PLC Share Offer

Update to our previous e-mail

The deadline for the IPO has been brought forward. Orders must be placed on the system before 12 noon on Thursday 7 November 2013.

Please click here for more details.



Infinis Energy Plc Share Offer

This IPO is now available on the Frequent Trader platform. The deadline for accepting applications is 12 noon on Wednesday 13 November 2013.

Please click here for more details.
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BP ex div today, never sure about BP but I think its a sell if it can go higher or a hold if not
+ ESSR
+ PDL

Why is Sea Energy so strong now :confused: because of Infinis ? I'm going to sell it anyway, just a bit more
 
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