TV Licence Super Thread

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Troezar said:
Maybe deliberately so but it seems if you watch anything at all you need a TV licence. I'm not seeing any exceptions. What is the definition of a "TV programme"?
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Yes. If you watch telly on your telly, you need a telly license. Before on demand became a thing, it was as simple as that. People try and read too much into the wording now but at the end of the day, if it's being broadcast over the air, it's live TV.

If you want the definition of a TV programme, in this context, it's "an item that appears in the EPG".

Troezar said:
That said if I was to only watch Sky News live then they should get a share of the TV licence fee imo.
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People in this thread seem to think only the BBC get TV license money. While they get the majority, it is distirbuted between (AFAIK) all the public service broadcasters. Other providers pay to broadcast their content (e.g. QVC, they aren't a PSB but they pay to be broadcast, as they make a profit from their viewers by selling stuff).
 
It has to be a live broadcast though - which apart from sport is completely unnecessary now a days. I've stopped paying mine as the BBC is a terrible unrepresentative company and I'm on Youtube or Netflix mostly when I do watch TV. I've had one letter but I'm happy for them to visit.
 
swillsy said:
It has to be a live broadcast though - which apart from sport is completely unnecessary now a days. I've stopped paying mine as the BBC is a terrible unrepresentative company and I'm on Youtube or Netflix mostly when I do watch TV. I've had one letter but I'm happy for them to visit.
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I think the definition of Live is what confuses people. I always thought that was something that was literally live, not prerecorded but shown as it happened. It apparently also includes a pre-recorded TV programme then broadcast over the air. If you access it at the time it is broadcast by viewing or recording it then it is "live" TV.

I'd like them to clearly state what can be viewed without a licence, by that I mean actually list the channels or services by name that don't fall under the licence.
 
swillsy said:
It has to be a live broadcast though - which apart from sport is completely unnecessary now a days. I've stopped paying mine as the BBC is a terrible unrepresentative company and I'm on Youtube or Netflix mostly when I do watch TV. I've had one letter but I'm happy for them to visit.
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What do you understand the term "live broadcast" to mean?
 
Troezar said:
I'd like them to clearly state what can be viewed without a licence, by that I mean actually list the channels or services by name that don't fall under the licence.
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If it's being broadcast then it's live TV. If it's on a Freeview channel, it's live TV. I presume same goes for all realtime content on Sky and Freesat etc.
 
LuckyBenski said:
Yes. If you watch telly on your telly, you need a telly license.
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Unless you watch telly on your telly any time after it was broadcast live, then you don't.

Simple.

Surveyor said:
What do you understand the term "live broadcast" to mean?
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My definition would be "Anything being viewed at the same time as it is being transmitted/output by the BBC" - So watching Eastenders at 7.30pm on BBC1 (however you watch BBC1) would be classed as Live Broadcast, but watching it at 8.05pm would NOT be classed as a Live Broadcast as the BBC broadcast of Eastenders stops at 8.00pm. That is my understanding of what constitutes "Live Broadcast".
 
ianh said:
LuckyBenski said:
Yes. If you watch telly on your telly, you need a telly license.
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Unless you watch telly on your telly any time after it was broadcast live, then you don't.

Simple.
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You can still require a licence to watch a programme after it was broadcast. Taking your Eastenders example below, if you recorded the 7:30pm showing of Eastenders to watch at 8:05pm you should have a licence to make the recording.

ianh said:
My definition would be "Anything being viewed at the same time as it is being transmitted/output by the BBC" - So watching Eastenders at 7.30pm on BBC1 (however you watch BBC1) would be classed as Live Broadcast, but watching it at 8.05pm would NOT be classed as a Live Broadcast as the BBC broadcast of Eastenders stops at 8.00pm. That is my understanding of what constitutes "Live Broadcast".
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A reasonable definition but not limited to just the BBC. Watching that Eastenders episode at 8:05pm is also going to require a licence as you'll have recorded it while being broadcast or be watching it on iPlayer.
 
ianh said:
Unless you watch telly on your telly any time after it was broadcast live, then you don't.

Simple.



My definition would be "Anything being viewed at the same time as it is being transmitted/output by the BBC" - So watching Eastenders at 7.30pm on BBC1 (however you watch BBC1) would be classed as Live Broadcast, but watching it at 8.05pm would NOT be classed as a Live Broadcast as the BBC broadcast of Eastenders stops at 8.00pm. That is my understanding of what constitutes "Live Broadcast".
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You need a licence still. Even if watching a recording or watching it on a delay, or watching it on demand.
 
Bouton Aide said:
steve5424 said:
You need a licence still. Even if watching a recording or watching it on a delay, or watching it on demand.
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No. You don't need a licence for this. How many times does it have to be said in this thread? LIVE, LIVE, LIVE.
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You need a licence to record a programme as it's being shown. You need a licence to watch Eastenders (the example given) on demand.

Why don't you need a licence to watch a programme on delay? You're watching a recording being made while the programme is being shown on TV and that recording requires a licence.
 
Bouton Aide said:
No. You don't need a licence for this. How many times does it have to be said in this thread? LIVE, LIVE, LIVE.

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Lmao, your infographic actually confirms what i posted. NOT what you claim at all.

You NEED a licence whether you watch Eastenders at its broadcast time,of you record it, watch it on delay OR watch it on iplayer. ,same would go for Emmerdale or Holloaks.
 
steve5424 said:
Lmao, your infographic actually confirms what i posted. NOT what you claim at all.

You NEED a licence whether you watch Eastenders at its broadcast time,of you record it, watch it on delay OR watch it on iplayer. ,same would go for Emmerdale or Holloaks.
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No, because Emmerdale and Hollyoaks aren't on iPlayer. ITV and C4 dont require TV license for VOD so you can watch those two on the apps after broadcast without a license.
 
I see the BBC are stepping up the educational content for kids during the lockdown. It's terrific to have a national broadcaster available that can make a decision like that without having to consider commercial interests.
 
COYS said:
Jesus christ, 210 pages in and what is classified as needing a licence is still being debated.
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Which highlights exactly what I was saying. They need to clearly define it so there is no doubt as to what is included. Some take a superior attitude which doesn't help. The fact remains the current definition is not clear to everyone.
We'll know when they get it right as there won't be any more debate about it ;)
 
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