TV Licence Super Thread

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Pottsey said:
I have read it again and as I said that definition you posted has gray areas and unclear areas. Like what happens when you do not have a license and a friend who has a license comes around and watches Live TV on your computer, then your tablet, then plugs your tablet into the mains. What about the live skynews example I gave where you are not watching it live as its broadcast but old content on youtube. It falls outside that definition.

You say you are not seeing any exceptions but there are lots of exceptions that are clear and others that are gray areas and we don't seem to know if they need a license or not.
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Just curious, are you American? I see you spell grey as gray the US English spelling.
 
I wonder if anyone has argued over the terminology of live as surely having to be transmitted it isn't actually live but delayed by a few seconds?
 
LuckyBenski said:
Ever heard of "The spirit of the law rather than the word?"

Do you really have a dilemma as to what is permitted and what isn't? I don't think there are many people visiting friends and gingerly starting up BBC iPlayer on their friend's tablet while looking over their shoulder :D
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Given that I don't have a TV license and given the harassment inspector gave me in the past then yes I do have a dilemma about what is and is not allowed. I am not one of the people who is trying to watch content that requires a license without a license. I am trying to follow the rules correctly for not having a license.

Yes I have heard of spirit of the law rather than the word, the problem is the BBC inspectors have not, all they care about is there next commission. I brought up the tablet because its a good example of how strange the TV license rules are.
 
So I had this Conversation with my sister earlier in the week. I don't pay for a TV licence as I don't wish to fund the BBC. I was under the impression that you couldn't watch any on demand, but apparently that only counts for BBC and not other providers...
 
That has been answered above multiple times.

Since the BBC moved the goalpost/change rules to suit themselves you cannot use their iPlayer period without a license but you can watch STV Hub/all other catchup etc.
 
Bouton Aide said:
People asking questions really need to go directly to the tv licence site and READ.

Look I'll even post you a link to get you a head start;
Do I need a TV Licence? - TV Licensing ™
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Well if you read that then you know it only answers half the question and doesn't tell you everything we need to know. Plus it demonstrates some of the really odd rules. Like the different rules if a tablet is plugged into the mains or not that makes no sense.
 
Pottsey said:
Well if you read that then you know it only answers half the question and doesn't tell you everything we need to know. Plus it demonstrates some of the really odd rules. Like the different rules if a tablet is plugged into the mains or not that makes no sense.
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It's a throwback from before internet and when portable TVs were a thing.
 
GIBURROWS said:
I wonder if anyone has argued over the terminology of live as surely having to be transmitted it isn't actually live but delayed by a few seconds?
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No they haven't because it would be futile. Why not just argue that due to the speed of light, the delay from your TV to your eyes also means that what you are watching isn't live?
 
Pottsey said:
Well if you read that then you know it only answers half the question and doesn't tell you everything we need to know. Plus it demonstrates some of the really odd rules. Like the different rules if a tablet is plugged into the mains or not that makes no sense.
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Thats their problem. If it’s not on the site the rule doesn’t exist. They need to be telling people in clear text.
 
Bouton Aide said:
Thats their problem. If it’s not on the site the rule doesn’t exist. They need to be telling people in clear text.
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Pity someone could not get a device to reroute the signal and delay it by say an hour. Even if it cost £159 it would be a big saving. That would in no way be considered as live and nothing to do with copyright.
 
Bouton Aide said:
You would be kind of bypassing the signal b they would just make the devices illegal to own so they can fine you
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Which is the same as fee evasion really. TVR has the technology so could it really be illegal to own one if it was marketed stupidly as a TV delayer and not a recorder?
 
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