No. The same way you don't need a licence to watch someone streaming a game on Twitch
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No. The same way you don't need a licence to watch someone streaming a game on Twitch
How do you make it clearer than the picture that was shown?Which highlights exactly what I was saying. They need to clearly define it so there is no doubt as to what is included. Some take a superior attitude which doesn't help. The fact remains the current definition is not clear to everyone.
We'll know when they get it right as there won't be any more debate about it
Which highlights exactly what I was saying. They need to clearly define it so there is no doubt as to what is included. Some take a superior attitude which doesn't help. The fact remains the current definition is not clear to everyone.
We'll know when they get it right as there won't be any more debate about it
The only people who it's not clear to are people who don't want it to be clear so they can have an argument about it and how unfair it all is
The person who posted the picture managed to get it wrong.
Does that say more about the person or picture?
If something is broadcast live from anywhere in the known or unknown universe, alternate or not, even from galaxies far, far away, then you need a BBC license to view it.
No for example the Nvidia big RTX stream this month, you can watch it Live on YT/Twitch etc as it is not on normal TV as the same time it is streaming/will not be ever..
I agree with the other guy above, this is getting old with some still not clued up on what you can and cannot watch.
The only new additions to know about are catch-up and specifically iplayer as the BBC moved the goalposts on it and decided after not needing a licence you now do (not really playing by same rules as others but it is their platform so they can do what they want and I can tell them to ram it same as the whole BBC).
I have not used it since it was beta and non live content with only catch up and only 720p.
Watching Emmerdale on STV catch-up does not need a license, but to record it as it is playing to watch later does.
WRONG.
You've already had the answer above and still get it wrong. only a 50/50 guess.
There is a gray area there that is unclear. What if you are watching Sky News "Live" on youtube from an hour ago or a week ago. Not the live bit that is broadcast and transmitted for everyone to watch at the same time. You are not recoding it live and rewatching later, you are not watching it broadcast live as you are able to rewind and fast forward. You are not watching on a delay as YouTube doesn't from a technology point of view work like that. If someone uploads a video and you watch it no one would call that a delayed video. Delay is when you use a pause mechanic to watch later like when you press pause then fast forward adverts.
Plus there is another set of rules you missed. A battery powered device not plugged into the mains is treated differently with different rules to a device plugged into the mains. Then people wonder why we are on xxx pages of debate on just what counts and does not count.
EDIT: I messed up and caused confusion.
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EDIT: No he (KELTS) is wrong period.
If someone cannot use their common sense to work out which is ok and not ok i.e. watching Sky News Live on YT the same time as its on broadcasting on TV vs watching the Nvidia RTX tech show on YT/Twitch live that is not on TV period then there is no point in trying to educate them.
The only grey area (BBC's own words) was when iPlayer came out and it was only catchup, the BBC still hinted they want you to have license to use it but said it is a "grey area".
Then they added live TV to it and said you can watch it without a license so long as it is not the live side only the catch up content, and now as you know it all needs a licence so changing the rules to suit themselves but it is there platform so I do not care and do not miss it and rarely used it years ago.
If someone cannot use their common sense to work out which is ok and not ok i.e. watching Sky News Live on YT the same time as its on broadcasting on TV vs watching the Nvidia RTX tech show on YT/Twitch live that is not on TV period then there is no point in trying to educate them.
The only grey area (BBC's own words) was when iPlayer came out and it was only catchup, the BBC still hinted they want you to have license to use it but said it is a "grey area".
Then they added live TV to it and said you can watch it without a license so long as it is not the live side only the catch up content, and now as you know it all needs a licence so changing the rules to suit themselves but it is there platform so I do not care and do not miss it and rarely used it years ago.
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Just realized I quoted the wrong name. Edited my post. You are right, the others are wrong.
How can JohnG7 be right and COYS be wrong when they're both telling Kelt he is wrong?
You've made a right dogs dinner of this one
I certainly did. I edited my posts but not fast enoughHow can JohnG7 be right and COYS be wrong when they're both telling Kelt he is wrong?
You've made a right dogs dinner of this one
Completely my mistake in quoting the wrong name. Sorry for the confusion. Going to go get some coffee and walk away from this thread until I am more rested as I am clearly making mistakes.Will all due respect you should read it again. This is the TV Licensing definition not mine. It's a direct copy and paste off their website.
I have read it again and as I said that definition you posted has gray areas and unclear areas. Like what happens when you do not have a license and a friend who has a license comes around and watches Live TV on your computer, then your tablet, then plugs your tablet into the mains. What about the live skynews example I gave where you are not watching it live as its broadcast but old content on youtube. It falls outside that definition.
You say you are not seeing any exceptions but there are lots of exceptions that are clear and others that are gray areas and we don't seem to know if they need a license or not.
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Ever heard of "The spirit of the law rather than the word?"
Do you really have a dilemma as to what is permitted and what isn't? I don't think there are many people visiting friends and gingerly starting up BBC iPlayer on their friend's tablet while looking over their shoulder
