The vast vast majority of the licence fee goes to BBC content.
Infrastructure is quite small and I wouldn't be opposed to that going into tax. Just not trashy content.
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The vast vast majority of the licence fee goes to BBC content.
Infrastructure is quite small and I wouldn't be opposed to that going into tax. Just not trashy content.
Agree with above.
Infrastructure in general taxation, but NOT A PENNY into BBC. It has to change the model, it has to be opt-in sub based and stand on it's own within the market and allow people to pay for what they want - I'd pay the BBC for their news content, but not for their other content - it's better elsewhere and has been for a long, long time.
Infrastructure in general taxation, but NOT A PENNY into BBC. It has to change the model, it has to be opt-in sub based and stand on it's own within the market and allow people to pay for what they want - I'd pay the BBC for their news content, but not for their other content - it's better elsewhere and has been for a long, long time.
Caporegime
Has it been reversed?
This government needs to make its mind up about the BBC, nothing worse than changing your mind every 5 minutes....
Frankly... i just don't care about any of that, the BBC has spent the last couple of decades sticking its fingers in everything to make its self difficult to untangle, while at the same time sticking its hand out for more money to pay for it all.
If it cannot survive outside of the taxation model then it has not right to exist.
Soldato
So what's the proposal? Make the (UK) TV side a subscription model and roll everything else into a national tax (which could potentially end up costing everyone more)?
I wish i could have that attitude towards taxes and the services i have to pay for but don't use...
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Caporegime
Make the BBC fight for your money, competitively.
In my view it has no right to our money just because it exists.
Caporegime
If people want its services they will chose to pay for it without any pressures to do so.
Soldato
How exactly? What's the solution?
I've asked you and you keep dodging it other than giving generic "I'm alright jack" replies.
If we're just going for the 'looking out for myself' type mentality, how do i claim back taxes on services i don't use?
I posted this before but it's come up again
Their own website (https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/what-does-your-licence-fee-pay-for-top13) seems to suggest those figures are a little out.
Caporegime
Again this is the idea that the BBC is entitled to your money just because it exists. it not existing makes no difference to anyone other than it being one less source of entertainment.
That's my response to this and the post above.
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Soldato
Soldato
But it isn't just one source of entertainment. It's several categories of entertainment plus news, possibly the world's leading TV R&D department, training, professional services, etc etc
And this is intrinsically linked. The BBC can lead on technology because they have a broad enough operational base they can experiment in their own departments as part of research. It's just not nearly as black and white as you'd like.
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Roll the infrastructure spending into broadband/CT/another tax and let the BBC go against other entertainment and news sources.
No longer can it produce poor content and pay celebs and managers etc inflated salaries. It would actually be accountable.
I'm also happy for it to carry on as is. Gradually losing audience over time.
You are acting as though broadcast TV will even still be a thing in the future (Pro tip: it won't).
Everything will be streamed on demand over the internet. The only thing still "broadcast" will be live sport or news but even that will be delivered over the internet.
The band aid will have to be pulled at some point.
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Soldato
You're focusing on a very narrow field of view of the services BBC offers.
And "...it not existing makes no difference to anyone other that it being one less source of entertainment." is clearly incorrect given their news, education and world services - even i remember using their 'Bitsize' school resources, which really helped me with certain subjects, and that was a long, long time ago.
Still waiting on your proposal for a workable solution to the funding of the BBC though...
Caporegime
I don't use any of it ^^^^
The BBC is stuck in 1923, how we consume media has moved way beyond what the BBC says is part of its financing requirements.
Its just "I am, therefore entitled to money" no. Earn it, make me want to consume your services and pay for them, like everyone else.
The BBC is stuck in 1923, how we consume media has moved way beyond what the BBC says is part of its financing requirements.
Its just "I am, therefore entitled to money" no. Earn it, make me want to consume your services and pay for them, like everyone else.
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Um, they make content that people like and will pay for like everyone else?
If they cannot do that, then they fail. Tough.
They are paying their executives hundreds of thousands of pounds a year so presumably they are all fantastic business men who can make lots of money. If the BBC fails, then they obviously are not and should never have been paid such large salaries in the first place.
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Caporegime
Exactly, if people want their services they will chose to pay for them.
Whats the problem? The problem is they cannot or are unwilling to compete, instead what they want is to take your money though taxation for simply existing.
Of course they do.... so do i, what a win!
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No it doesn't. Watching live TV without a licence could land you in front of the magistrate. But if they rock up at your door without evidence because you don't watch live TV then you can quite happily close the door with a polite "no thank you". The burden of proof is on them.
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I would happily give up paying for the TV license these days. My watching habbits have slowly migrated to streaming services.
It's only Strictly and Gardeners World that the missus watches that prevents me cancelling. Pretty much everything else is dross, or getting very stale.
It's only Strictly and Gardeners World that the missus watches that prevents me cancelling. Pretty much everything else is dross, or getting very stale.