TV Licence Super Thread

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Doubt that GBnews has any credentials for worldwide news gathering (their man in Havana, Gaza or Ukraine ?)
they'd just be publishing franchised news purchased/re-packaged from other organisations.

Does seem the bbc is throwing the baby out with the bathwater though - cutting back on newsnight capability in preference to what - crown jewels of strictly , Attenborough ....
 
There is a legal video in this thread somewhere, all you have to do is ignore them, that could do it.



20 years ago people didn't have a digital TV, there was an initiative to provide an inexpensive alternative, Digital TV Boxes that you plug in to your analogue TV, they started from as little as £9.99 and all the manufactures got involved, you went in to a Curry's store you couldn't see for these things.

No reason why they couldn't do it again, to turn your old TV in to a smart TV, such things already exist.
Whilst that is a solution, I don’t think it’s currently a viable solution with the technology we have.

The switch over from analogue to digital, whilst pretty major in its own right, was relatively straight forward as we simply continued to use all the existing infrastructure that just about every house in the country has (TV aerial).

A switch off of that broadcasting service and making everything watchable only via an internet connection is a really huge change and would require almost 100% broadband coverage at a specified minimum speed. We are a long way off providing that to everyone in this country.
 
A switch off of that broadcasting service and making everything watchable only via an internet connection is a really huge change and would require almost 100% broadband coverage at a specified minimum speed. We are a long way off providing that to everyone in this country.
Very true. I've said before, I live in the middle of a large city and I don't have access to fibre of any flavour. I'm still stuck on a flaky 10Mb ADSL2+ connection over copper. :mad:
 
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A switch off of that broadcasting service and making everything watchable only via an internet connection is a really huge change and would require almost 100% broadband coverage at a specified minimum speed. We are a long way off providing that to everyone in this country.
Minimum speed and also total bandwidth - imagine a street with, say, one home in 3 watching live TV over IP. That's a ton of traffic directed down the internet backbone just for one street.

I don't believe there's any kind of multicast solution in place. IIRC all of terrestrial broadcast (no satellite) totals about ~140Mbps. That's a huge chunk of bandwidth to just busy up.
 
People pay for the Licence?

Not paid the licence for a very long time, i used to fill in the "I dont need a licence" online form. did that twice, ever since i just can't be bothered to fill the damn thing up.

Recieved many letters from tv licensing, but it all ends up in the bin. I did however receieve a new RED letter notice from them recently.. Change of tactic?
I don't need to prove anything to them. Long may it continue.

The thing that really annoys me is their bully tactics. Their assumption seems to be that everyone MUST be guilty. This does little to get me on their side.

I haven't had a licence for, oh, twelve years now. Much as though I hate the BBC licencing system, I would pay it, but there is absolutely nothing on live TV that I want to watch. Or anything to do with the BBC.

They are extremely annoying with their threats. How dare they? Anyone else, and this would be called out for their bullying and intimidation.
 
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I get letters frequently addressed to "the householder" as they dont even have my name on file at this address.

Is it bullying tactics? Perhaps but, IMHO, you can only be bullied if you let it bother you. I am that used to the letters that I recognise 90% of them without opening them so they go straight in the bin. The odd one that I open just goes in the bin and I give all of them no 2nd thought just the same as I put a scrap bit of paper in the bin so I don't feel bullied
 
I get letters frequently addressed to "the householder" as they dont even have my name on file at this address.

Is it bullying tactics? Perhaps but, IMHO, you can only be bullied if you let it bother you. I am that used to the letters that I recognise 90% of them without opening them so they go straight in the bin. The odd one that I open just goes in the bin and I give all of them no 2nd thought just the same as I put a scrap bit of paper in the bin so I don't feel bullied

I love it.
In a pathetic way I know I'm costing them some money. The red envelopes are my favourite
 
Much as though I hate the BBC licencing system, I would pay it, but there is absolutely nothing on live TV that I want to watch. Or anything to do with the BBC.

This.

Even if you sign up to just a couple of streaming services (say Netflix and Amazon), you have more things to watch than you would ever have time for in a lifetime. Also, some BBC stuff ends up on Netflix anyway.

To be honest, for £160 a year, the TV content on the BBC is massively lacking compared to the competition now.

The whole thing is just completely antiquated, and i fear the management have not done anywhere near enough to prepare the organisation for what is coming. Once the current older generation pops its clogs, i imagine their revenue will plummet.

They should have started switching over to a general subscription model years ago.
 
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Even if you sign up to just a couple of streaming services (say Netflix and Amazon), you have more things to watch than you would ever have time for in a lifetime. Also, some BBC stuff ends up on Netflix anyway.
The vast majority of their content is also utter garbage. Unless you're one of those that puts something on and then scrolls on their phone. Each steaming service gets a good movie or show once in a while and you just sub for a month and then move on.
 
The vast majority of their content is also utter garbage. Unless you're one of those that puts something on and then scrolls on their phone. Each steaming service gets a good movie or show once in a while and you just sub for a month and then move on.

But I think the same about the BBC content. Most of it is garbage for my tastes.

I mean look at today's listings. It is just antiques/bidding shows watching other people buy/bid on things, and some stuff about fraudsters. Then the news. Riveting stuff.
 
This.

Even if you sign up to just a couple of streaming services (say Netflix and Amazon), you have more things to watch than you would ever have time for in a lifetime. Also, some BBC stuff ends up on Netflix anyway.

To be honest, for £160 a year, the TV content on the BBC is massively lacking compared to the competition now.

The whole thing is just completely antiquated, and i fear the management have not done anywhere near enough to prepare the organisation for what is coming. Once the current older generation pops its clogs, i imagine their revenue will plummet.

They should have started switching over to a general subscription model years ago.

If you aren't into mainstream stuff BBC is absolute garbage.

This is fair enough, but I don't want to be forced into paying for it.

You know it will hit 200 by time new rules come in.

200 a year to suddenly pay (ie general tax) that you weren't paying before is quite a lot.
I'd probably chop Christmas presents or something.

No doubt it'll be loaded onto CT. Sitting on band E I expect it will be more for those in higher bands. But it'll have to be 200 a year. It's not an insignificant amount of money to be suddenly taxed on for no gain

Even worse, as there would be no way to not pay, salaries could go up, even worse garbage could be produced.


Id love to see it go it alone. But it would fail within a year or 2. I don't think the government can let that happen. Maybe I'll be out of the UK by then.
 
If you aren't into mainstream stuff BBC is absolute garbage.

This is fair enough, but I don't want to be forced into paying for it.

You know it will hit 200 by time new rules come in.

200 a year to suddenly pay (ie general tax) that you weren't paying before is quite a lot.
I'd probably chop Christmas presents or something.

No doubt it'll be loaded onto CT. Sitting on band E I expect it will be more for those in higher bands. But it'll have to be 200 a year. It's not an insignificant amount of money to be suddenly taxed on for no gain

Even worse, as there would be no way to not pay, salaries could go up, even worse garbage could be produced.


Id love to see it go it alone. But it would fail within a year or 2. I don't think the government can let that happen. Maybe I'll be out of the UK by then.

I'd be surprised if the government ever got away with adding it to general taxation. I would imagine all sorts of law suits.

You can't force people to pay for entertainment that they do not want to watch in a functioning democracy.
 
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I'd be surprised if the government ever got away with adding it to general taxation. I would imagine all sorts of law suits.

You can't force people to pay for entertainment that they do not want to watch in a functioning democracy.

Wouldn't it be worse to let it fail?
They need to do it soon. Because the BBC is shedding subscribers (I believe?)

And they wouldn't want to leave it too long where it becomes an issue as so many people are cancelling.

Everyone knows it'll fail if you have a Netflix subscription
Many would hate it becoming general tax.


Keep it like it is. It will force the BBC to unwind over time into oblivion. If people valued it.. They'd pay for it.
 
Wouldn't it be worse to let it fail?
They need to do it soon. Because the BBC is shedding subscribers (I believe?)

And they wouldn't want to leave it too long where it becomes an issue as so many people are cancelling.

Everyone knows it'll fail if you have a Netflix subscription
Many would hate it becoming general tax.


Keep it like it is. It will force the BBC to unwind over time into oblivion. If people valued it.. They'd pay for it.

The director gets £525,000 a year as a salary.

If he is worth that much, then he should sort it out. I don't give a **** whether it fails or succeeds.

If it fails, then it highlights that none of the people earning stupid sums of money there deserved it in the slightest.
 
It would be the coup de grâce to the idea of a British culture, it's the last thing standing besides a meddling King. All we'll have left is global consumer product conglomerates pretending their 'patriotic' with local market advertising filled with flegs.

On the one hand I don't care, futurism, lack of meaningful borders etc etc, but on the other I can see the dissipation of societal complexities that make life interesting all distilled down to focus groups and paying through the nose to keep the nepotists happy.
 
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Wouldn't it be worse to let it fail?
They need to do it soon. Because the BBC is shedding subscribers (I believe?)

And they wouldn't want to leave it too long where it becomes an issue as so many people are cancelling.

Everyone knows it'll fail if you have a Netflix subscription
Many would hate it becoming general tax.


Keep it like it is. It will force the BBC to unwind over time into oblivion. If people valued it.. They'd pay for it.

i'm going to shove my 4 year old nephews art through your door every week and tax you £160 a year for it.
 
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