TVs and going obsolete

I can't comment on exactly how LG runs its OLED production facilities other than to say 24/7 operation makes sense purely from a production management perspective. It's easier (and cheaper) to keep lines running than go through start-up and shut-down procedures every day.


That doesn't mean that the lines are running flat out though.


Again, I can't speak for LG, but from what I know of the production processes within manufacturing industries is there's an increasing risk of rejections the faster a production line goes.This means there's a balance point between the speed of production and the acceptable rate (and cost) of the rejections. Also, running at ‘full speed’ if you will in normal production times leaves nothing in reserve if production needs to be increased at peak periods.


Given the nature of price erosion in TV tech, and the cost of holding stock in warehousing, I’d be surprised if LG held significant stocks. It's probably better for them to follow something closer to a Just-in-Time production model with minimal finished stock in land-based warehousing and most of the inventory on the move by road, rail and sea. At least it’s moving towards an invoice date that way, and the transport acts as a virtual warehouse of sorts.


Samsung’s Neo QLED is already being countered by LG’s “QNED” or whatever they’ll call it. It seems like LG are going to position this between their current NanoCell LED TV range and OLED as a premium LED offiering.


All things considered then, LG will have standard LED as a price-fighter range, NanoCell for a mid-range/semi-premium offer, then QNED for those who want a lot of the benefits of OLED but with higher nit values, and then OLED itself. I think if I wanted to maintain volume and market share I’d probably look at shaving a few quid off the LED prices. To my mind that’s a more price sensitive market segment. £50 off a £500 LED is a 10% discount, and that’s probably going to get people to bite. Would the same £50 taken off a £1500 OLED make that much difference to sales? I don’t know if it would excite someone to get an extra 3% off. I guess we’ll see how they play it in the second half of 2021.
I think your right, the type of person buying a 500 quid telly is not going to be the same type of person they buys a 1500 quid one regardless of whether its lcd or oled. Also someone buying a "cheap" set for 500 is going to be far more budge conscious that someone spending 3 times that.
 
I’ve got my 2018 LG 55” B8 OLED and I have absolutely no intention of replacing it anytime soon. I’m still really impressed with the picture quality and I’ve just had AirPlay and HomeKit added via a firmware update :cool:.
 
Just bought a new TV today as my 4 year old Hisence has bit the dust, I'm a £500 TV person! I honestly don't care about all the extra crap as long as I can see the screen and it's 4k. Went with Samsung UE55TU7100 55".
 
got a 65" pannasonic OLED coming monday, replacing a GT50 plasma which i'm moving into the bedroom as its working perfectly and has a really good picture, i just felt like going bigger and have sky and recently got netflix so thought i might as well upgrade for 4k and HDR.

regaurding prices i could have got the 55" OLED version for the same price i paid for my GT50 plasma about 8 years ago
 
got a 65" pannasonic OLED coming monday, replacing a GT50 plasma which i'm moving into the bedroom as its working perfectly and has a really good picture, i just felt like going bigger and have sky and recently got netflix so thought i might as well upgrade for 4k and HDR.

regaurding prices i could have got the 55" OLED version for the same price i paid for my GT50 plasma about 8 years ago
Imo tvs really have dropped in price, I saw a 75 inch for less than a grand the other day:eek:.
 
Imo tvs really have dropped in price, I saw a 75 inch for less than a grand the other day:eek:.

ive seen a no name LCD 75 inch at 600quid once

Prices have definitely come down and it's causing average sizes to go up.

as of 2021: 55 inch is considered to be a bedroom/small room size, 65 inch is considered to be minimum living room size and 75 inch is the current living room sweet spot
 
We have an update on Samsung's plans

it doesn't look like Samsung plans on keeping mini-led for very long. As per HDTV Test, Samsung will launch its OLED tv next year.

that's quite a lot of change to Samsung's lines up - we've had QLED for several years, only to be replaced by Mini-LED this year and then OLED next year
 
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ive seen a no name LCD 75 inch at 600quid once

Prices have definitely come down and it's causing average sizes to go up.

as of 2021: 55 inch is considered to be a bedroom/small room size, 65 inch is considered to be minimum living room size and 75 inch is the current living room sweet spot
I currently have a 60 and it looks small, I keep hoping the kids break it so I have an excuse to upgrade, not sure I'd go oled at that size though they start getting a bit pricey.
 
Yeah, bedroom for me is max 40" (still perfectly happy rocking a 32") unless you live in a manor or something, and 65" is perfect for a decent sized living room.

I'm 3m from our 65" and any bigger would start start to cause noticeable eye-travel or minor head turning.
 
I guess it's the distance you ait that's the issue. I'm about 4m away and it's a bit on the small side (for games anyway).

I guess it depends on Distance and quality of content.

I'm 2.5m and 55" 4k. About the sweetspot overall when you include 1080p content. I don't dip below 1080 these days.
 
got a 65" pannasonic OLED coming monday, replacing a GT50 plasma which i'm moving into the bedroom as its working perfectly and has a really good picture, i just felt like going bigger and have sky and recently got netflix so thought i might as well upgrade for 4k and HDR.

regaurding prices i could have got the 55" OLED version for the same price i paid for my GT50 plasma about 8 years ago

Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the motion handling of the oled after GT, made the same move and it’s not an easy transition.
 
not noticed anything yet that hasn't looked right although haven't watched much sport yet, watched 10 minutes off football earlier and looked fine. my eyes seem to pick up motion issues more than most people i know. mostly been watching dolby vision content on netflix(which looks so good i keep finding myself looking at the picture and not actually taking in whats going on) and not seen any issues there even on the faster moving scenes. mine is the HZ980 which doesn't have as good a motion handling as the higher models so i was a little concerned but so far seems ok. hopefully so far its looking like i've got a good panel.

regaurding size and distance comments above, i'm 8' away from a 65" and its definatly not to big. i now know i would have really regretted getting a 55". 4k is obviously very good, 1080 looks just as good as it did on my old 50" and if i really had to(not that i ever do) SD would be watchable just.
 
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as of 2021: 55 inch is considered to be a bedroom/small room size, 65 inch is considered to be minimum living room size and 75 inch is the current living room sweet spot
No way is 75" minimum size for a living room...

Almost everyone i know doesn't have over a 55" in there living room, Just about everyone i know tv's are between 40" to 50"
I don't even know a single person that has a 75" or larger in there living room...
 
No way is 75" minimum size for a living room...

Almost everyone i know doesn't have over a 55" in there living room, Just about everyone i know tv's are between 40" to 50"
I don't even know a single person that has a 75" or larger in there living room...

I think your friends just have small houses, sometimes I forget you guys live in shoeboxes in the UK.

I actually googled this, turns out the average house size here is nearly 4 times more than the average UK house size so yeah...
 
I think your friends just have small houses, sometimes I forget you guys live in shoeboxes in the UK.

I actually googled this, turns out the average house size here is nearly 4 times more than the average UK house size so yeah...
Are you in the US by any chance:D. I'd say in the UK 55 is the most common,
 
Australia, yeah 55sqm is the number for average uk house size I found on Google, in Australia it's 198sqm - my current house is 250sqm floor size on 700sqm land
Yea but I bet your neighbour is miles away (literally:p). It's relative, in London I bet the average size is lower due to the massive coat.
 
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