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I doubt it, blu Ray has barely been a thing, I don't know anyone that is buying 4k dvds, a lot of people like me can not stream 4k, and 8k streaming would be a very very distant dream
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I doubt it, blu Ray has barely been a thing, I don't know anyone that is buying 4k dvds, a lot of people like me can not stream 4k, and 8k streaming would be a very very distant dream
It’s really not worth it anyway, no way is 8K going to be a thing for absolutely years bar a pointless feature of new TVs (which will just upscale as 4K TVs do now) to try and stimulate demand for new sets. The only thing 4K in my house is the pointless 4K panel in one of the TVs. It looks the same as all of the other TVs.
Edit: I will caveat that i do not literally mean that it looks the same, moreso that it looks so similar, from any viewing distance whatsoever, that i can completely understand why nobody cares about it, and why blu-ray never really did kill DVD, let alone 4K blu-ray.
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also after the new toy feeling finished 12 months after buying a 4k TV you go back to watching lots of normal HD stuff
I have, on a properly calibrated OLED. 4k is nice, but it's overrated. HDR makes the biggest difference. Netflix, Sky, Disney + streams are about as good as a proper BD 1080 picture.
Do wonder if LG had produced more 1080p oleds, at the < 55" screen size (where ~ at typical viewing distance 4k less discernible) these could have shown a higher yield, less burn-in issues (bigger aperture), so, been cheaper and penetrated the market more.
Netflix were streaming a 1080p hdr stream as part of their adaptive bitarates.
hdr filming on the likes of the soap operas - will BBC ever do this ? would drive upgradeitus
Olympics won't be a driving force for 4k/hdr adoption now - what had the japanese planned ... so - next winter olympics. ?
Netflix were streaming a 1080p hdr stream as part of their adaptive bitarates.
hdr filming on the likes of the soap operas - will BBC ever do this ? would drive upgradeitus
Olympics won't be a driving force for 4k/hdr adoption now - what had the japanese planned ... so - next winter olympics. ?
I have to disagree. It's getting hard to buy a new 40+" TV that isn't a native UHD (4K) resolution.
Clarity of picture isn't the key factor here. It hasn't been in the change from 1080p to UHD 4K, and it won't be when there's a shift from 4K to 8K. What will drive this will be the same as the impetus that drove UHD 4K; it's the leading manufacturers looking for some way to differentiate themselves from a market that is becoming commoditised.
Consumers don't need 8K, the same as we don't really need UHD 4K. 1080p with HDR and WCG would have been a major step forward in consumer benefit, but it wouldn't have served the manufacturers in their quest to have something new to sell with "big numbers". That's what consumers understand the easiest. It's why they came up with ever more creative ways to rate amplifier power: bigger numbers regardless of whether it's true or means anything.
In five years I can see 8K TV being widely available, just the same as the average screen size will be bigger too. 70"-75" may well be the go-to size for a typical living room TV. The driver will be what the manufacturers want to push rather than what consumers really need.
Can't imagine 75" been the average for a typical UK living room, I'd rate my living room as a typical size, and a 75" would be getting a bit too big!
I wish it would be. I was telling my partner for our viewing distance 75" would actually have been the optimal size and that I was being compromising in saying we would only need 65" (75" would look ridiculous in our room but I was banking on the classic negotiating tactic of going high)
We left the store with the peasant 55" version - Yes. Yes I'm still bitter about it.
We left the store with the peasant 55" version - Yes. Yes I'm still bitter about it.
That's the same kind of argument that was used with each TV size increase. Yet, here were are, with folk routinely looking for 65" as their next lounge TV.
It seems that the size arguments evaporate once the price hits an acceptable point.
It won't suit everyone, of course. But we're looking at a bell curve, and the trend over time seems to be clear.
I decided not to go the OLED route, instead opting for one the very best LED's at the time (Sony XE93). Don't regret my decision, where I lost out on the blackest blacks, I feel I make up at the "brightest brights" end of things.
I shall entirely miss out the OLED technology and my next upgrade will be MicroLED.
I don't itch for new technology or something new - more than happy with my TV and even once MicroLED makes it's way into sensible priced equipment, I won't be queuing up for it.
I shall entirely miss out the OLED technology and my next upgrade will be MicroLED.
I don't itch for new technology or something new - more than happy with my TV and even once MicroLED makes it's way into sensible priced equipment, I won't be queuing up for it.
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How bright is the hdr?
A TV becomes obsolete when there is a new tech or feature available that you must have or want to have either that or it dies.
I think my first oled will be in 2 years time. I still think there are teething issues which have been demonstrated by various firmware fixes needing to be deployed. Hopefully they release a much brighter oled soon too.
Or I might just forego oled and get a large FALD. It's usually better value for money. I've had several plasmas and never could enjoy them as always had to be looked after to avoid burn in.
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You made a sensible decision. I replaced the GT50 plasma in the bedroom with the Sony xf90.
Don't regret it either.
I want an oled for downstairs but again even with having plasma blacks I'm not convinced that it really matters especially since 75"/77" oled's are ridiculously priced and I want a 75" - 85"
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Same with my Panny plasma from 2012...
Can't get Sky Q unless the managing agent rip out and replace the distribution system, don't have anything that plays 4k BR. When the Xbox needed replacing saved a load by getting a Series S. It's good enough.
When it dies I'll probably get a decent OLED.
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As a 65" OLED was out of budget, I have settled on a mid-range 65" 1000 nit LED instead, and will wait it out until MicroLEDs are common place, which will hopefully give most of the pluses of OLED without burn or pixel degradation.
Actually, they probably don't need such drastic action.
There are bits of hardware available now that can offer multi-dweller properties the ability to have a mix of units, some with Q and some still with older Sky or Freesat all via the existing cable connections to the flats.
Its a bit too much to drop in to a post, and it wouldn't be right to hijack someone else's thread, but if you're interested then maybe send me a trust massage to find out more.
I have in the last couple of weeks gone from a 50w805, again 1080p and I thought the picture was pretty good. Had a bit of buyers remorse before it was delivered. Watched a couple of things with lights off in 4K HDR and Dolby vision and the difference is quite profound.
dark so dark it’s black, and white spots so bright it can make you squint.
there is a scene in oblivion (Tom cruise movie) where he is underground in an old building, bit of a gun fight where the gun is stunning bright and instantaneous it imposing, startling. Then the scene finishes with a drone scanning the room with blue white lasers, again the contrast in the dark room, it’s a step jump.
this is another point - oleds seems to be priced the same way apple prices iphones, I don't see the >£1K value in them, when did we sign up for this ?
wait a few years - I learned my lesson from early adoption on led,
as commented too you really need to invest in the content/media too -
otherwise, it's like having a super hifi system listening to dab radio or 128Kb/s AAC, or a a great espresso machine and rubbish grinder.
£1700 is personally great value for something that is super top end quality and used every day for a minimum of 5 years.
Edit.
For all of OLEDs downsides, the positives far and away make up for it.
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OLED prices reflect the fact that only one company managed to bring the tech to market successfully.
The tech in iPhones isn't unique other than the OS and the whole Apple ecosystem. These are not really the same thing as the OLED proposition.
The same argument with source material applies to high-end LED too.
Why bother buying a full 10-bit panel LED with FALD and really high nit values to watch compressed UHD streaming and upscale 1080p? Yet people do that too, and arguably more so than with OLED because LED is cheaper for the equivalent screen size.