Two schoolgirls abused by 60 men in Aylesbury child sex ring, court hears

A bit more focus from the authorities and maybe this sort of thing wouldn't happen.

If you also extend that to the Savilles and Glitters of this world then I doubt many would disagree with you.

If you limit it to those who aren't white because it sits nicely alongside your other prejudices then most right thinking people would disagree with you.
 
[FnG]magnolia;28057704 said:
If you also extend that to the Savilles and Glitters of this world then I doubt many would disagree with you.

If you limit it to those who aren't white because it sits nicely alongside your other prejudices then most right thinking people would disagree with you.

How many Jimmy Saviles have there been?

Up and down the country we have evidence that a certain group of men, abuse a certain group of people.

Don't take my word for it, look into the report about Rotherham.
 
Call me cynical, but the people posting the most vitriolic stuff in this thread are hardly the most empathic people for the rights of women & children. This is not a thread stocked to the brim with misunderstood children's rights campaigners or feminists (real ones, not internet feminists).

The very same people directly support polices which increase the crime rate & cause suffering to these very groups. So no, this isn't a revulsion at the abuse of children, this is anger at foreigners doing it.
 
Call me cynical, but the people posting the most vitriolic stuff in this thread are hardly the most empathic people for the rights of women & children. This is not a thread stocked to the brim with misunderstood children's rights campaigners or feminists (real ones, not internet feminists).

The very same people directly support polices which increase the crime rate & cause suffering to these very groups. So no, this isn't a revulsion at the abuse of children, this is anger at foreigners doing it.

Spot on.
 
Call me cynical, but the people posting the most vitriolic stuff in this thread are hardly the most empathic people for the rights of women & children. This is not a thread stocked to the brim with misunderstood children's rights campaigners or feminists (real ones, not internet feminists).

The very same people directly support polices which increase the crime rate & cause suffering to these very groups. So no, this isn't a revulsion at the abuse of children, this is anger at foreigners doing it.

Simple yes or no elmarko:

Are there strong indicators from several investigations and from metrics that abuse and grooming of young girls is overly represented in men of Asian origin primarily from Muslim faiths?

This is the problem here once again with everyone polarising the issue. Helping people will not start until people accept that is an issue there that need tackling. Moreover, cries of racism and discrimination will only increase when traditional abuse until recently and in some cases (ie political perpertrators) is still being pushed to one side.

To solves these issues there needs to be strong action through a variety of means. Being to frightened to actually call it like it is because the Guardianeque crowd will instantly call foul is not helping anyone - see Rochdale. The problem with the Guardianesque crowd is that they are all for tolerance when it is not on their own doorstep. It is social nimbyism at its worst.

The problem here is authorities have had their hands tied: fear of investigations because of fame, fear of investigation because of political clout, and now fear of investigation because of the racial connotation. Well that is plain ******** - high profile 70's stars did abuse and should be locked up for life what they did, high profile politicians did abuse and should be locked up for life for what they did, and now Asian (mainly Muslim) men are abusing and should be locked up for life for what they are doing. And when a white middle-class bloke abuses (by and large the largest number if not in representation) then they too should be locked up for life.

They should be locked up for life because they have imposed a life sentence on the victims and those victims themselves will then pass that onto society and their own family in all likelihood.

Lock the sick ***** up whatever their skyfairy, skin colour or career pathway.
 
I'm pretty sure that immigrants are required to speak the language of the land and undergo English tests for a successful Visa application

Only at A1 level.

"Can understand and use familiar everyday expressions and very basic phrases aimed at the satisfaction of needs of a concrete type. Can introduce him and others and can ask and answer questions about personal details such as where he lives, people he knows and things he/she has. Can interact in a simple way provided the other person talks slowly and clearly and is prepared to help."
 
Shock and horror as members of the human race abuse those weaker than them.

Seriously though, send them back! Only true British child abusers allowed here!

Dem Sikh Muslims and their religion of peace!

On a more serious note, whatever punishment those who are guilty and convicted receive isn't going to be harsh enough. Prison for those who cause lifetime physical and psychological harm through abuse just doesn't seem enough...
 
I think everyone needs to show a bit more tolerance in this thread, for example Muslims joining ISIS is our fault apparently for hating Muslim rape gangs. We should all turn a blind eye like the police and social workers do and this will all go away.
 
Call me cynical, but the people posting the most vitriolic stuff in this thread are hardly the most empathic people for the rights of women & children. This is not a thread stocked to the brim with misunderstood children's rights campaigners or feminists (real ones, not internet feminists).

The very same people directly support polices which increase the crime rate & cause suffering to these very groups. So no, this isn't a revulsion at the abuse of children, this is anger at foreigners doing it.

Nice attempt at dismissing people's legitimate concerns about inner-city rape gangs. So come on then, for those of us who are concerned about the aforementioned rape gangs and are empathic towards the rights of women and children, what say you now sir?
 
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