Type R and VTEC owners

[ChrisD.]

I've been asked to make a thread about Type Rs and other Honda's. I've had 7 Type Rs now, I keep coming back to them for whatever reason. I've managed to build up a wealth of knowledge over the years on all sorts, more so to do with the Type R side rather than S2000 so if you have any sort of question, be it tuning, which garages to avoid, something is not working right, what to look out for or anything else then I'll do my best to help and I'm sure others will as well.

I've had the following cars myself:

2004 EP3
2005 EP3 (Gruppe M and Spoon exhaust)
2001 DC5 (240bhp +, massive mods list)
1999 CH1
1999 DC2 UKDM
2002 EP3
2000 CH1

I'm hoping to be in a DC5 again by the end of the year but that is down to a lot of factors outside of my control so time will tell.

 

[ChrisD.]

I've had a few VTEC's as I do enjoy the high revving engines, I'll try and do them in order.

CH1 an import Accord Torneo? They are one of my favourites, my memory is rusty

1998 Civic Coupe SR EJ8
1999 Civic VTI MB6
1998 Civic EK3
1998 Civic VTI MB6
1999 Civic VTI EK4 (FL)
1996 Civic VTI EK4 (PFL)
2002 Accord VTEC Sport
2000 Honda Prelude VTI

CH1 is an Accord Type R, UK model. CL1 is the Euro R from the same era.

 

[ChrisD.]

Loved my mapped DC5, it's absolutely spine tingeing listening to it to it rev to over 8500.

 

[ChrisD.]

So, according to the OP's ownership history,

he couldn't get enough of the EP3.

You'd think so but as always there's more to story that meets the eye.

 

[ChrisD.]

Never been tempted to stick a JRSC on one of your EP3's?

No. 240+ bhp from KPro, intake, exhaust and header is more than enough for the EP3, especially if it doesn't have a diff. If you want more power, buy a car that's designed to have more power in the first place, IMHO.

My first EP3 was my first "hot" car, 'twas also my second car ever, till someone drove into it. The second EP3 was an insurance replacement.

The reason I bought the third is because my DC2 had just sold and the EP3 was cheap with loads of decent mods on it. I bought it, stripped and sold the mods, sold the car and then bought the ATR which I have now which I actually prefer to the EP3. Saying that, I much prefer the K20 and gearbox over the H22 and 5 speed that is in the Accord.

 

[ChrisD.]

Did you have a KPRO?

Absolutely love mine. got my limit to 8500, bit scared of putting it to 8600.

Best thing is, whenever I come to sell it I'll hopefully get the same money back as they don't tend to lose value.

Kpro
Gruppe M
Toda manifold
T1R 63mm stainless steel exhaust
AP racing grooved discs with Mintex 1144
TEIN coilovers, then D2 coilovers which were pants (lesson learned!), then stock dampers with Eibach springs
SPC camper arms
Buddy club bonnet
Mugen wing (haters)

Loads more.

Stock valvetrain on the early cars will take 8600, mine was mapped with a limit of 8800 which is a little high but I never had an issue. Stock cams will stop making power over 8600 anyway.

With most of the mods on it:

The private plate was for lulz.

Santa Pod:

Almost back to standard, with white wheels:

Rockingham:

 

[ChrisD.]

8650 rpm - any higher limit = valve bounce.

Depends when the engine was made.

Initially The K20A and K20A2 had a dual spring setup on both the intake and exhaust side, which was changed sometime in 2002/2003 to a single spring on the intake side. The max RPM on the double spring is said by many decent K20 tuners to be 8600, and the single spring 8800. The reason for the change was rumoured to be to help stop engine failure by mis-shifting. It is also said to be the same spring that is used in the S2000, the F20 engine.

 

[ChrisD.]

Love that plate, I'd actually buy that.

Do you still have it.

No, it was sold, still knocking about on the owners forums somewhere.

There are many variations:

K20 BYE
K20 F T W
K20 CYA (as above)
K20 PWN

etc etc.

 

[ChrisD.]

The K20 CYA plate has done the rounds

Indeed it has, I was the original buyer, Paid £280 iirc direct from the DVLA. I had to drive into Brum to change the plate over, that was a nightmare. IIRC, it was September 2007.

 

[ChrisD.]

Did you ever go to any of the MCR VTEC meets?

No.

 

[ChrisD.]

Just about to line up to do a 1/4 miles run.

The video:

 

[ChrisD.]

So this is the equivalent thread to the RenaultSport thread yes?

Sure why not.

Tidy DC2 mate. What are the rear arches like?

 

[ChrisD.]

Spotless

Before I had it, it had been garaged for all of it's life (so the previous owner claimed), it spent a few years in Germany somewhere too.

Stripped out the back seats last summer and painted rust prevention stuff all over the arches on the inside, then under sealed the under side, the car stank for weeks

Awesome stuff. I was a bit naive when I bought mine, it had bubbling on the arches, had I known how much it would be to fix, I'd have bought another example. Cost me the wrong side of £500 to fix iirc, and that was a cash in hand mates rates price. Top job though.

 

[ChrisD.]

MilanoChris, get in on my Santapod thread later this month you already a regular as it seems ^^^

Sorry mate, 1/4 times don't interest me, only did the one time for a laugh and to experience it. Plus, I'm saving for the 'ring and Spa in April. Thanks anyway.

 

[ChrisD.]

ah never been before, something to tick offr the list.

Go over with a bunch of mates. Best holiday ever.

 

[ChrisD.]

Looking very nice. Was it something you used everyday or was it only santapod and trips to lakeside on a Saturday night?

My DC5? It was my main car mate. But for most of the time I owned it I walked to work.

Still did an insane amount of miles in 3 years though, something like 54000.

 

[ChrisD.]

Chris have a lightweight fly?

When Des drove it, it was completely stock apart from an exhaust, Eibach springs and Spoon drop in filter.

 

[ChrisD.]

I was. T1R's.

Needed them in a rush and they were the only ones I could get at the time in the correct size.

I remember, weren't the old ones nigh on bald? lol

 

[ChrisD.]

Ah yes, leaving Bristol, lovely.

That's when I had the mad dash back to Wilton.

 

[ChrisD.]

How do you know it was the distributor that died? They won't die unless you hit something against them or crack the housing. It would more likely be a coil pack or the leads.