Type R and VTEC owners

[ChrisD.]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3470786.htm

That's cheap.

 

[ChrisD.]

Very!

I have an sneaky suspicion that the car is bent, the name rings a bell.

 

[ChrisD.]

They did a white JDM facelift for a very short period, extremely rare. I've seen a couple on the Civic forums.

Here it is, very nice

http://civictype-r.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=222365

If it's a JDM then what happened to the JDM seats? I have NO idea why you'd put Facelift seats (maybe premiers) in their place.

I smell tarp.

EDIT just noticed they look like JDM seats in the first photo's but the ones after?

 

[ChrisD.]

Facelift JDM look remarkably similar to Premier seats in those promo shots. Looks lush though, lol at 14-15k valuation though, Christ!

I'd rather an FD2 at that price, newer and much better all round.

 

[ChrisD.]

So would all the people with 15k in the bank and a hankering for a Civic too

No way is it worth 15k, I'd say 10 would be a massive push.

10K is more realistic, considering 2005 DC5's go for that sort of money.

I'd still rather a DC5 though, they look better and crucially they have hydraulic steering.

 

[ChrisD.]

Just to add, if we're being realistic, unless you're getting an FD2 or DC5, if you are spending that sort of money, then FN2's are hard to ignore, as they are going for silly cheap now because they aren't affected by the "JDM tax". I can't see any reason why you'd buy that EP3 when you can get a CW FN2 with an LSD and have a lot of spare change.

 

[ChrisD.]

Don't people usually shun the FN2 because of the torsion bar suspension?

Of course the 'forum racing driver' will, you know the ones, but if you're realistic, then why would you buy a JDM EP3 over a much newer CW FN2 (or any LSD model) with better equipment as standard and have spare change?

Unless of course you want to be a JDM whore (which is understandable), but in which case then considering the price then why would you not get an FD2 or late DC5?

 

[ChrisD.]

lol it does. I have seen them with my own eyes.

They don't have Zenons, only projectors.

 

[ChrisD.]

I am confused. Was looking at RJK's car the other night and he was determined they were xenons.

They looked identical to my car, which does have xenons. I know the difference between a HID kit and xenons before anyone says!

AFAIK they are projectors only. I had two facelift EP3's and they were both projectors.

 

[ChrisD.]

just checking... were they both facelifts?

lol whoops

Right, done a bit of reading. they are HIDs with self levelling motors in projector housings.

I think the wording "xenon" is thrown around quite freely as it sounds cooler than "HID" to car manufacturers.

They are not HIDs, there is no ballast at all. They are normal H4 bulbs in a projector style cluster. They don't have self levelling motors either, the ATR is the only UK Type R that does iirc.

 

[ChrisD.]

I'm fairly certain Xenon's or HIDs are NOT a factory option on UK cars, only the JDM.

The adverts above will be generic dealer copy and paste ads.

I bought two Facelifts brand new, only options I had to choose from were:

A/C
Fogs
Sat Nav

 

[ChrisD.]

It's not a factory option, never has been.

 

[ChrisD.]

That's what I thought.. odd.
The only R that had xenons from the factory, or so i thought, was the JDM DC2 Type Rx and the ATR.

The only UKDM Type R to come with them is the ATR. I don't think the FN2 has them as an option either.

The JDM cars are different, I believe the JDM EP3 had them, will text a mate who owned one to confirm.

DC2 as you say has them, as does the DC5. I'm unsure on the FD2 though.

 

[ChrisD.]

So what has RJK got on his car then?

Without having seen his car, I couldn't possibly comment.

And why is that info on wikipedia. Was it a premier edition thing?

Not everything on Wikipedia is true and no, the premier did not have HIDs or Xenons.

Premier Special Edition

In 2005 Honda introduced the Premier edition which had Recaro Trendline seats (similar to those found in the Anniversary Edition, only in red and black rather than all red), a darker shade of fabric on the rear seat centre sections, a Momo Steering Wheel, Red Carpet, "Type R" embossed into the front brake calipers and privacy glass on the rear windows. These were available in Milano Red, Nighthawk Black, Cosmic Grey and Satin Silver.It Is Also The Fastest Car Having 3.5 I-Itec Engine. In 2007 This Car Was Known As Civic Reborn

And no, I did not do that myself.

 

[ChrisD.]

The only other thing I think could explain the Wikipadia article is if perhaps EDM cars had an option for HIDs but the UKDM doesn't.

 

[ChrisD.]

He's just text back, JDM EP3 does have HIDs.

 

[ChrisD.]

EDM cars are all LHD so I doubt that.

He's either got standard lights with good bulbs, or he's got a very good conversion kit.

 

[ChrisD.]

Yes, possible.

It's the addition of a ballast and bulbs that would be different as well.

Would be an expensive conversion compared to the typical ones that are around.

My old DC2 had a great conversion done.

 

[ChrisD.]

That pic looks fine to me...

Rear quarter panel is a deeper black than the door and wing, looks like the car has had paint at some time, probably on the rear end. A good polish will sort it out.

 

[ChrisD.]

Do you think its worth taking it to a bodyshop to have it polished properly?

Of course, most offer free quotes so what do you have to lose? At least they'll give you an idea about the cars general condition as well. If you don't like the price, look into doing it yourself if you feel up for it, or find a detailer online who'll do it cheaper.

FYI I have more often than no found local coachworks type bodyshops to be more than reasonable.

Out of interest, was it the same issue you think?