Tyre Nichols murder
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Still zero excuse for how all those Police and Emergency workers treated him.
No it's the other guy somebody linked a video to.
That misunderstood person shot at the Police, ran in a supermarket or similar, he was chased in there and the cops pinned him down, roughed him up because they wanted to know where the gun was.
What they should have done was invite him back to the Police station, offer him tea & cakes and hopefully he would have told them.
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Look lets not dance around it here. He saw a black man and his mind went to "he's a criminal, it will come out in the end and I'll be fully vindicated in my feeling about him".
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If he had a criminal record it would have been front and centre from day 1. And the reckless driving reason given for the stop is the easiest reason in the world for an officer to pull someone over. He ran a red, failed to stop at a stop sign, didn't indicate while changing lane, these are well know excuses US police use as justification for pulling someone over because in the US unlike here they need to suspect an offence has been committed to pull you over.
hadn't read this https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/28/tyre-nichols-police-video-description/
The officer who initially stopped Nichols was driving a brand-new unmarked car that was not equipped with dashboard cameras, Davis said. The unit is assigned patrol cars, but they have the option to drive unmarked cars if they’re carrying out surveillance.
Davis said she doesn’t know why the officer was in an unmarked car, or how the initial encounter between Nichols and the officer unfolded.
When the video begins, “this officer and the other officer that joined were already ramped up about Mr. Nichols in his car,” Davis said. “If something did happen we don’t know what it was. They allege that he was driving on the wrong side of the road but we have not been able to prove that.”
potentially, could be other road user dashcam witnesses ,
don't they have gps tracking even if no dashcam.
The officer who initially stopped Nichols was driving a brand-new unmarked car that was not equipped with dashboard cameras, Davis said. The unit is assigned patrol cars, but they have the option to drive unmarked cars if they’re carrying out surveillance.
Davis said she doesn’t know why the officer was in an unmarked car, or how the initial encounter between Nichols and the officer unfolded.
When the video begins, “this officer and the other officer that joined were already ramped up about Mr. Nichols in his car,” Davis said. “If something did happen we don’t know what it was. They allege that he was driving on the wrong side of the road but we have not been able to prove that.”
potentially, could be other road user dashcam witnesses ,
don't they have gps tracking even if no dashcam.
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How an unproven rumour about Tyre Nichols fits a larger victim-blaming pattern
Experts say there is a pattern of false allegations directed towards victims of police brutality.
www.bbc.co.uk
FYI - as some people here came out with this story
Yes he shot at them, they stormed the building with heavier weaponry.
The guy was not armed at the time and was cooperating with officers, he got a boot to the head against tiles and then gun butted to the head, this surely will have a massive impact on the person being detained as they could have been concussed during those assaults, making your point of getting information out of them useless.
If they are concussed from being assaulted by you, you cannot expect them to follow your commands directly.
Back to the point of the gun missing, well he was not a threat at the time and was cooperating, nothing wrong with arresting him without stomping on his head and then performing a search on him and then search of local area for the weapon in question. Assaulting him in the manner they did, increases the risk of not finding the weapon.
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I'm so glad the World is not run by people like you, he deserved everything he got.
Play with fire and you get burnt.
Go and super glue your hand to the road or harass Cops as a Freeman of the Land.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT TYRE NICHOLS
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As someone who works within a hospitals, I expected a bit of compassion when it came to assaulting an individual and then demanding information from them.
He did not deserve everything he got, it is not the cops duty to physical assault or to give an extra curricular beating before dragging him off to see a judge in court and get jail time. He gets jail time anyway for what he's done, he'll now come out with even more hatred for the police for assaulting him when he was completely following their orders.
It's really not hard mate, their behaviour is ******* disgusting and uncalled for, regardless of the crime and situation at hand.
As for world not run by me, you clearly think of me as some words that I wont mention, you can call me them directly if you got the nuts. Maybe you are just salty that views like your own are on the decline. Who knows, maybe your view will change when you have a real bad exchange with the police yourself.
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I think we already know the answer that on here from previous 100s of threads people would side with me so not outdated
I bet you believe that Tony Hudgells real mum now deserves to be let out and live a normal life because she served her time.
I think I know what most people secretly want.
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You probably think the police were justified to put a gun in the mouth of suspects and beat the **** out them to get "confessions" with the Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4. None of this namby pamby treatment suspects get today, get back to the good old days where they either confess or they get the **** kicked out of them until they confess.
The police aren't judge, jury and executioner. Their job is to act within the law and kicking the **** out of a suspect isn't legal. If they'll do it to this guy they'll do it to Tyre, in their eyes its the same thing.
What campaigners blocking traffic has to do with this I'm not sure, maybe you feel the police should be kicking the **** out of them as well, I wouldn't be surprised at this point.
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No I didn't, those 2 cases were awful for the men, their families and the families of the victim's.
This case is different, man shoots at Police, he's very lucky he wasn't killed
You would have taken him McDonalds and talked to him nicely without raising your voice
Why do you think we are up for giving them fast food and luxury services? I have not once said that is what criminals deserve. What I have said is that if cooperating and not a threat, there is no need to take your own form of justice, regardless of the crime, they will get their justice and time in jail.No I didn't, those 2 cases were awful for the men, their families and the families of the victim's.
This case is different, man shoots at Police, he's very lucky he wasn't killed
You would have taken him McDonalds and talked to him nicely without raising your voice
Before you even go in on further assumptions of myself then wanting small sentences, luxury prisons or whatever else. I'll save you the bother, incorrect. Jail should be rough and a hard time whilst also providing sensible and quality rehabilitation services. It should be an incentive to not wish to return, without the need to ruin their lives forever (If they go through rehab and can prove changed character, better outlook, worth to being in the open).
I had to google Tony Hudgell case as I was not aware, as for this one I do not think it is my place to judge if she should be let out (I know what you are getting at though, the sentence is rather lenient for amount of damage caused, that's a completely separate issue, perhaps a sentence review should have taken place and increased in line with the legislation they are responsible for). She should be barred from having or any form of responsibility for any children.
Also saw that she was assaulted in prison also, so since an additional form of justice or punishment has been delivered, she must be on the route to rehabilitation right?
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Anyway, no more of this, you know where I stand on scum.
I'm in an Irish Bar overlooking the sea in Lanzarote already wasted on Guinness so I can't be bothered
I'm in an Irish Bar overlooking the sea in Lanzarote already wasted on Guinness so I can't be bothered
So are you going to admit that your bias has shown through and you jumped to the wrong conclusion, or you've based your conclusion on something you can't confirm?
Or is it another post-and-run by Chris "I'm not racist" Wilson?
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I dont think he has ever used the term. "Im not a racist".
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These threads are always a hilarious read, absolute popcorn material.
I do wonder if those defending the thuggery (guy with the gun firing at officers for example), could even begin to imagine what it's like spending a week policing the awful areas where these incidents happen frequently. Pretty sure that they would have a different outlook afterwards.
I do wonder if those defending the thuggery (guy with the gun firing at officers for example), could even begin to imagine what it's like spending a week policing the awful areas where these incidents happen frequently. Pretty sure that they would have a different outlook afterwards.
Dont matter, if you are not professional enough to do the job, dont do it or get fired.
Happens in the military with the rules of engagement and the officers get punished as they should. Regardless of the crime at hand, there is no need nor duty to perform an additional own form of justice against an individual, police or civilian, its really that simple.
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Irish Tom and someone else explained the confusion, I read it as this Tyre fellow had shot at the police. Apparently he didn't, no doubt in due course it will come to light just what sort of chap he was.
I have said, several times on these forums, that I prefer some races over others, I make zero apologies for that and genuinely see such a bias as no better nor worse than preferring some makes of car, or some breeds of dogs.
The liberal left have cottoned onto "racist" as a catch all condemnation of people who have the nous to read crime statistics and not be swayed by their bullying and cajoling into putting themselves at needless financial or physical risk by nonetheless embracing those who have historically given them grief.
If that make me a racist in your opinion, fine, it's water off a duck's back.