Very good point, but alas clearly this new player should be winning games single handedly and playing amazing football in the process
God I wish we were Tottenham because they had such a better transfer window than us.
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God I wish we were Tottenham because they had such a better transfer window than us.
God I wish we were Tottenham because they had such a better transfer window than us.
Indeed, second to none in their transfer dealings this summer
Barry, Milner, Lescott... City won't win anything with such mediocre players.
It's a pity but the only decent players in City's squad are the foreigners.
you are SO narrow minded sometimes , its quite incredible really
Agreed
What's happened to English defences
9 goals conceded in 4 games against teams with nothing but decent attacks.
9 goals conceded in 4 games against teams with nothing but decent attacks.
They didn't do bad with them domestically last season and were unlucky to go out at the group stages of the CL, I don't think you can blame them for the below par performances this season.
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Of course that happens, have you ever watched football
Erm yeah
do you 
but everyone was suggestin either or, and not a combination,
Too much time spent on the sofa watching football. The ladies should meet in a pub and carry on there over a few pints.
Ok Frank lets see whether I'm narrow minded or you're just wrong...
Ok here's where you're wrong to begin with, comparing Kagawa's price tag with others is irrelevant
Here you are being wrong about that again
Here you are being wrong for the third time, on this occasion insinuating I'm singling out Kagawa when the facts are I'm not
Finally here are the 4th and 5th times you were wrong (because yes you were wrong to begin with as demonstrated above and secondly it was you that was missing the point) so no Frank I'm not narrow minded (do you even know what that means?) you're just wrong.
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I think the clearest sign Frank is wrong is that jonney is agreeing with him
Indeed, second to none in their transfer dealings this summer
Is that sarcastic? I think our new signings are massively mediocre apart from Vertonghen (dunno about Lloris yet). Dempsey and Siggy look really bland. The equivalent of Mikel, Diaby, Park, Fletcher etc. Dembele is more useful than Modric but not as creative. VdV is missed. Adebayor is already sulking.
Edit- that being said, the above players need time to bed in as the wholesale changes to team and tactics are so radical that I understand an element of awkwardness in our play. Our counter attacking DNA is helping us win games atm but hopefully with time the aforementioned players grow more comfortable in the system and start to express themselves and take responsibility for creating/ scoring goals.
Normally I would want to dump Europa ASAP but this season, the first team need time on the pitch and I think we should use these games to increase confidence and understanding within the team
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Yes it was a dig at me because in the summer I said Spurs had done better business than United. tbh I still kinda stand by that, RVP's goal return has been epic so far (even if his all round performances haven't) and we wouldn't be where we are without him but having said that I didn't bank on Rooney being out for a month so who knows whether we'd better or worse off in the hypothetical world where Rooney didn't get injured and RVP never signed....
Buttner's added some depth to the LB area (although we could have just kept Fabio) but still early days as to whether he's just going to be the next De Laet or not and I think I've said enough about Kagawa. Spurs biggest problem is the manager, I mean what's the deal with signing Adebayor but playing Defoe as the lone striker?
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I actually think they're most reliant on Yaya. He dragged them out of a hole on so many occasions last season.
Well, calmed down a little, not much but a little.
Vito Mannone - Performs like a 3rd choice goalie, need Chesney back
Carl Jenkinson - Not his best performance but was pretty solid defensively
Per Mertesacker - A few important interceptions and blocks, not bad
Thomas Vermaelen - Another worrying foray up front which actually caused us to concede, needs to stop doing it and concentrate on defending
Andre Santos - Awful, just awful, left as with a back 3 countless times and didn't do anything going forwards, far worse than Gibbs and not a worthy stand in
Francis Coquelin - did ok
Mikel Arteta - again did ok
Aaron Ramsey - i don't get him, what does he do? he's rubbish in the middle and even worse on the wing (always comes central anyway), might as well not have been on the pitch
Santi Cazorla - tried hard, had to run in circles numerous times as there was no out
Lukas Podolski - isolated yet again, when in advanced position fired in 2 awesome crosses, why does he keep getting subbed!
Gervinho - even worse than santos, from a Podolski cross he just ran into the ball, didnt even try and cushion it with inside of left or outside of right, hit his toe and went straight out, did the same again with that break, literally ran over the ball, he is shocking and constantly gets in Podolskis area, how this shambles of a player is starting for any premiership team is beyond me
Overall we just weren't at the races and didn't look bothered about it. Exactly the same as the Norwich game. I think Ramsey, Gervinho and Santos cost us the game. Awful players in all 3 areas of the pitch which completely ruined the shape of the team overall. You can see the frustration from other players towards Gervinho he's that bad.
Vito Mannone - Performs like a 3rd choice goalie, need Chesney back
Carl Jenkinson - Not his best performance but was pretty solid defensively
Per Mertesacker - A few important interceptions and blocks, not bad
Thomas Vermaelen - Another worrying foray up front which actually caused us to concede, needs to stop doing it and concentrate on defending
Andre Santos - Awful, just awful, left as with a back 3 countless times and didn't do anything going forwards, far worse than Gibbs and not a worthy stand in
Francis Coquelin - did ok
Mikel Arteta - again did ok
Aaron Ramsey - i don't get him, what does he do? he's rubbish in the middle and even worse on the wing (always comes central anyway), might as well not have been on the pitch
Santi Cazorla - tried hard, had to run in circles numerous times as there was no out
Lukas Podolski - isolated yet again, when in advanced position fired in 2 awesome crosses, why does he keep getting subbed!
Gervinho - even worse than santos, from a Podolski cross he just ran into the ball, didnt even try and cushion it with inside of left or outside of right, hit his toe and went straight out, did the same again with that break, literally ran over the ball, he is shocking and constantly gets in Podolskis area, how this shambles of a player is starting for any premiership team is beyond me
Overall we just weren't at the races and didn't look bothered about it. Exactly the same as the Norwich game. I think Ramsey, Gervinho and Santos cost us the game. Awful players in all 3 areas of the pitch which completely ruined the shape of the team overall. You can see the frustration from other players towards Gervinho he's that bad.
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lol, Fabio got dropped for Clint Hill, who then got dropped for Traore..... I think getting shot of Fabio for a year was excellent business.
AVB is an idiot for buying Ade, but not for starting Defoe, who has been very very good and Ade is a pratt.
As for City, Milner was average at best last season, Barry was poor, Lescott was perfectly capable as part of a solid back 4, when the players around them play badly, bad players show up very easily. Barry with 10 players around him playing well, you can almost be forgiven for thinking he's quality, when the other 10 players aren't doing so well you can very easily see how useless he is though. Milner/Barry aren't really worse than last season, just easier to see how inept they can be. Lescott has been worse but its been more about Kompany being no where near as good than Lescott being that much worse.
Overall they have a "meh" squad for the money spent, still HUGE quality there but only a few key playmakers, of whom all are sporadic in their consistency, there were plenty of games last year Nasri/Silva went missing, especially in Europe, its why Real/Barca/etc didn't go for Silva, he's not often a big game player.
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Its worth noting that Podolski has looked pretty meh since we dropped Giroud for Gervinho in the middle. Look at Podolski in the past, excellent for Germany with Klose upfront, Klose is a brilliant finisher but his interplay with the wide men, playing one/two's, getting it and passing it in behind was brilliant. Podolski with Gomez upfront, whose interplay is rubbish, can only finish, and Podolski looked crap. He isn't an out and out winger, never has been, you want a quality player in the middle, give him the ball running towards the box, and for him and a front man to play off each other.
Podolski with Giroud starting to look half decent and that worked well, Podolski upfront with decent players on the wing and Santi and him working, looked good, Podolski trying to play with Gervinho... rubbish. Gervinho is absolute gash, every single second of every single game from the very first preseason appearance he's looked inept on every level. He is absolutely incapable of being a front man in a team like this. Especially as he spent SO much of the game running wide to get the ball.... he does that and then did nothing with the ball. At least staying in the middle would give others the option of crossing it in, his movement is shocking, his football brain is non existant, he's simply rubbish.
At this point It's got to be Podolski/Arshavin wide and Giroud upfront and pray Giroud comes good, or Podolski upfront, Arshavin wide, and we need someone to play wide right. The more I see AOC, the less I see him being good enough in the future to really be a quality winger that we need.
The fact that Arshavin can't get a game while Gervinho gets picked despite being horrendous, its been Arsenal's problem for 8 years, Wenger can't tell who is useless anymore and its cost us year after year.
Fabio's injured is he not? Or at least he got injured, I suspect that's the reason he found himself out of the team
To me he reminded me of when Tevez was at West ham.
He was making runs and playing passes that the other players simply couldnt read as he was so far ahead of the game.
Kagawa has come straight of the back of playing for a team who, for the past two seasons, has been playing a brand of football light years ahead of our own.
Kagawa once he has adapted to uniteds current slow OAP football will look better, but not as good as he did because he will have to regress to fit in.
I for one cannot envisage this current United side battering city like Dortmund did, or beating Real Madrid.
Will agree with you on everything there about Podolski and Gervinho. You can just tell Podolski has the class but with Gervinho through the middle he just isn't anywhere near as effective.
I think Arshavin has to start currently, i'd even like to try him ahead of AOC at the moment who i think needs some reserve / U21 games etc to get his confidence / form back . I know you don't like Walcott but he is sorely missed at the moment and i know there is the contract dispute but he needs to be playing. At the very least he's capable of getting goals and assists which AOC, Ramsey etc aren't at the moment.